Nothing new there with many NHL Islander/Bridgeport prospects giving the AHL a few years at low salary before going home or to a league with better talent/pay than the AHL on a two-way contract.
What is new and what makes this a problem is to qualify Nilsson or give him a one-way deal means you are qualifying a max ELC to retain the rights same as you would have done with Josh Bailey, Kyle Okposo, Ryan Strome.
Nilsson was paid as a top draft pick., you qualify that deal, and play him in the NHL, his raise is based upon his ELC which in this case was max money in 2011.
Nilsson's agent in 2011 sent out a twitter update that this was the lowest draft pick in the former CBA from 2005-2012 to get a max ELC.
That's what makes this different from Mark Katic, Rhett Rakhshani, qualifed David Ullstrom or perhaps even Mikko Koskinen, who's status is considered not qualified by the Ct Post, but still listed as a prospect on the Islanders website.
For now Nilsson needs a qualifying offer to retain his NHL rights regardless if he plays in North America, that will likely happen because it costs nothing to retain his rights.
Nilsson for his late season look in the NHL got paid top draft pick money.
Loic Leduc-Signed 4/28/14
Jesse Graham-Signed (ATO) to play with Sound Tigers.
ATO-Amateur tryout/Not NHL contract.
Adam Pelech was signed.
Kyle Burroughs/Viktor Crus Rydberg, both signed tryout contracts in Bridgeport (ATO) they do not have to be signed this summer.
No college prospects in the organization are scheduled to graduate, if one does the deadline would be 8/15.
The usual games with Kirill Petrov are what they are, there is still no official transfer agreement with the NHL/KHL. Both sides have their verbal agreement the other league will respect a signed contract but it's tough to enforce if a player challenges it by signing a second contract.
newyorkislanderfancentralprospects: Is updated with all contract status in organization.
|"The Taxpayers Have Spoken"|
Given Ed Mangano, spokesman, Rob Walker, is still playing that taxpayer will of the people card a few days ago as the excuse for the Islanders moving to the Barclay's Center (maybe) along with comically stating the Islanders will still be playing games at the Coliseum (possible cameo's/not definite in 2017) I thought why not write it once more for those in the cheap seats or with very short memories.
About twenty six or more NHL teams have or had received massive taxpayer assistance. Mike Illitch got a taxpayer funded baseball stadium, and neglected historic Tiger Stadium to it's demolition getting paid to not maintain it.
Please don't take my word for it, "Stranded At The Corner", A Documentary On Illitch's Role In The Destruction Of Tiger Stadium is there for all to see.
Illitch people even had the corrupt Detroit City Council defeat a conservancy group, which had demolition crews tearing into the grandstand thirty minutes after the the final decision (and days before below) in a town of vacant buildings for decades.
And this is someone who does not even pay his rent/cable fees back to 1980 while Wang was cleaing up sewage in a building he renovated many times for his Smg/Nassau landlord after he ended past litigation.
Can you imagine how badly all these teams would lose a referendum vote? The Islanders got 67,000 people to vote yes with Wang doing interviews non-stop.
Here's a quick recap around the area:
I left out Msg's taxpayer funded renovation in 1990 that came in around two hundred million for those teal/purple seats & I left out Mayor Lindsey's 1973 taxpayer funded renovation that was supposed to be 24m for Yankee Stadium, that came in well over a hundred million so brand new owner Steinbrenner would stop paying his rent by the early 80's as he started his New Jersey, West Side Stadium threats.
The Tennis mayor (David Dinkins) got his taxpayer stadium in Flushing Meadows leases approved in the waning days in office here which upset the Yankee baseball mayor Giuliani.
Illitch was handed the keys to the taxpayers money on 3/31/14 all past bills forgiven, lighthouse development, even demolition of Joe Louis.
And of course the sources, sources and even more sources amateur, all over the Isles daily business (via sources) traveled all the way to Detroit, to not ask Mike Illitch any questions, but more importantly quietly let it all pass when he returned home with a new gold star on his NHL resume when it was time to sit down, and write about the taxpayers role in Mike/Marian Illitch's success. Instead time to move on to a new biographic on a slots licensed employee of the former Smg tennant/lower than the Isles payroll Pittsburgh Penguins before they got paid by the citizens without referendum.
I guess a weekly sourced based circus about any other NHL teams businesses getting taxpayer money (starting at Msg with that increasing seventeen million dollar yearly taxpayer exemption check) would not be good for the career.
Jim Cerney (former Islander employee now Msg website salesman) approved canned press releases is all that's allowed while another Msg President, Hank Ratner (lost Coliseum bid to unrelated Bruce Ratner) was sacked/stepped down 4/6/2014
@nyifancentral I should have. That's on me. There were several questions I wish I'd have asked in retrospect. That's one.That folks is an honest answer.
— Mike Vaccaro (@MikeVacc) November 22, 2013
Fear not, professional journalists in Detroit did speak for the taxpayers and not just write about pizza.
Funny, where did I read all this before about Nassau, someone other than Charles Wang? Something about two years, time's running out?
Come on....Steven Gluckstren even said all he wants is a new Coliseum?
That's what Wang said on WFAN 7/26/2011, he has no real estate rights in Mangano's referendum.
But Wang bought ONLY bought the team for real estate, how can that be? Alexei Yashin, Michael Peca, & Rick DiPietro got 176 million dollars of Charles Wang's money to influence politicians who never went to games or heard of this team after 1984.
Howard Milstein was wrong about constructive eviction, his former partner, Steven Gluckstern, who was a viable co-owner in Phoenix, was right about the taxpayer money other teams received without a referendum
A referendum? Serious politicians who consider the team a public trust, lock the doors, and get a deal done never using a referendum as a permanent out card because they are not up to doing their job.
No folks, I had my suspicions but felt Nassau/TOH could not be the worst anywhere in the US/Canada, and would not be so dedicated in forcing their own team to leave.
Many times I wrote if the referendum failed it would produce the ground work to an eventual deal.
I will admit a little denial on my part now when those entries were written.
In retrospect it was the teams media relations giving up trying to get the Daily News, Post or Times to spend money on full time coverage.
I made my suggestion on 5/8/2008 to have the team pay the writers to travel with the team on the road if that's what it took with it dismissed for countless reasons. By 12/5/2008 the same former media relations coordinator was calling for all NHL teams to host media on the road.
Whatever. So much for that enhanced Newsday coverage. (insert joke here)
Never received one e-mail telling me what to write by the team or that would have been posted here with a response to immediately take my link off the Islanders website.
Now it's time for the Islanders organization to correct it's mistake, and push the newspaper editors to spend their limited budget money assigning a full time beatwriter to cover the club with a daily updated blog like all other NHL teams.
No more blog box, no more amateur media credentials issued.
This team has a website to interview it's players, it has media relations people to sit down with newsppaer editors, and figure out a way to cover every single game.
No one is stopping amateur writers from writing on-line, but the days of a few of them having access inside the Nassau Coliseum or Barclay's Center should end.
Dan Martin, Peter Botte, Kevin Allen, John Rolfe, Phil Mushnick, Ben Hankinson, player agents all responded to my e-mails with the discussions posted here over the years.
I never asked the team for help or needed to be a blog box member to receive/send e-mails, no one does.
One item in one entry was edited about Peter Botte. He contacted me about a game related mistake in an article he wrote that I pointed out, he said he had a family issue, and would appreciate it if I changed my entry so I did out of courtesy.
Yes, the same Peter Botte, who in 2014 is reduced to snarking the team on twitter at a paper who does not have the budget to assign a full time writer, while he lobs softballs at the laughingstock Knicks was that sensitive about things written on a blogger hosted website?
Dan Martin asked me not to post our e-mail discussion. I did.
Mike Sielski wrote, and said he could not answer my questions about his LaFontaine hit-job, then went to the Buffalo News to interview/sell himself with his mistake filled article.
Ending the blog box/amateur access should also end some of the amateurs with credentials from other outlets to invent so much sourced based gossip from other teams practice facilities about a New York Islander team, who's games those editors will not spend money to cover.
All due respect to the blog box members, time to pay for tickets, no more access to locker room.
Contact players by e-mail ask for written interviews for your blogs/sites.
Anyone can read a newsppaer on-line with a direct quote and post it on a blog/website.
It's worked here since 2007, and before that since 2000.
Time for full time Newspaper coverage to return. There will never be an acceptable excuse for the cut of coverage to begin with. With no more amateur bloggers, excuses will be gone for no full time professional newspaper beatwriters when/if this franchise moves to the Barclay's Center beyond these publications own financial issues.
#isles Sebastian Collberg just concluded surgery in New York, will remain here for 2 weeks then 6 months of rehab: http://t.co/AgKn3UDSY4 …
— NYI Fan Central (@nyifancentral) April 24, 2014
In other words it's a Calvin deHaan summer for Collberg who also has to adjust to North American hockey.
Not like the team has a full time newspaper beatwriter to bring our fans information. The amateur fan bloggers are too busy selling only one thing........themselves.
Dolgon said the mystery money man behind a possible bid for the New York Islanders has reconsidered and said he's 99 percent sure he will not fund a purchase offer at this time. Dolgon said the investor reassessed his work and family health issues and decided he could not fully commit now.
"It's just the timing,'' Dolgon said. "I said, 'You wanted me to bring you an opportunity. I did. I totally understand the timing is not right.' The guy with the money is the one who is going to decide if the timing is not right. Who knows what happened? He did say to me, 'If I'm going to do something, I'm going to be in 100 percent. Right now, I don't think I can do that.''
Dolgon would have been an investor in the group, and likely would have been involved in running the team in some manner. Dolgon said his friend left open the possibility of pursuing other NHL opportunities.
"He made it very clear that it's something he's still interested in, whether it's this situation or something else that comes up,'' Dolgon said.
Reached by phone on Tuesday night, Dolgon said he does not know Barroway and has never spoken with him.
"Certainly I'm reachable, if he'd like to reach me,'' Dolgon said.
Understanding Leases 101:
Just like the Islanders current lease with Nassau County, and the Islanders lease with Smg which run until 2015, they are strictly between the Islanders and the Municipality/company they made those agreements with.
Same as the Dec 2009 sublease between Smg/Islanders.
What Do We Know About Islanders 25 Year, Binding, Iron-Clad, No Opt Out Lease At Barclay's?
Nothing beyond Charles Wang's comments in October 2012 for a lease that may not be binding until 2015 when the team begins play there. Rumor/gossip about financial agreements are not information.
The NHL has no control or say with regard to these leases or the one between the Islanders and Barclay's when a team makes an agreement within their territorial rights.
Gary Bettman can provide lip service for a fellow member of the board of governors (team owner), he can complain about the local government treating a team poorly, but the league has no legal rights or involvement in those agreements.
What Does NHL Control:
What the New York Islanders cannot do is have two home arena's at Barclay's with some 2017 regular season games at a possible renovated Nassau Coliseum without NHL approval & Flyers, Devils, Rangers approval for the same reason the Rangers cannot play home games in the Bronx, and Manhattan without Islanders/Devil/Flyer owners approval.
Same for the Devils, they need above approvals (Islanders, Flyers, Rangers) to play games in Newark, and at their former Meadowlands home.
If the Flyers want two home arena's in Pennsylvania or Philadelphia, the Islanders, Devils, Rangers have the right to reject it.
Territorial rights matter, one home arena to a customer.
What Do We Know About Islanders Television Rights Agreement With Cablevision?
It runs until 2031, and pays them hundreds of millions of dollars provided home games are in Nassau, Suffolk, Queens, Brooklyn, or a portion of Ct.
The Devils in 2004 signed a similar agreement, the Sabres also have an agreement with Msg.
John Spano signed the Islanders deal at a time with Cablevision when Fox Sports/Msg were partners.
What Breaks A Lease:
When both parties mutually agree or there is a clause permitting one side to break it. One side claiming the other violated their agreement does not make a lease broken.
Sure one party can pay the other in an agreement to break a lease early or extend it past it's term.
The ownership group, Atlanta Spirit, owned the Thrashers, the NBA Hawks and the Philips Arena.
In other words they sold a part of what they owned the rights to in a building they owned/operated.
That would kind of be like James Dolan deciding to sell the Rangers out of market and simply keep the Knicks in a building Msg owns with more concert dates, or the Islanders someday being sold to Bruce Ratner/Nets owners who then decided they no longer want a hockey team in their building.
The Islanders being owned by Charles Wang or another individual someday give them some protection as a tenant against their landlord in their lease terms.
The reverse there also applies in that Charles Wang or a future owner cannot decide he's moving the team.
This is how Howard Milstein arrived at the Coliseum is not safe game plan long ago, he could not break his leases until 2015 so he decided to use the scoreboard excuse as an out while Gulotta was doing nothing to improve/replace the facility, with his infamous "Pigs at the Trough" comment.
As Howard Milstein found out just because you claim "constructive eviction" does not make it so.
Gulotta to his final day made clear whoever owned the Islanders had to pay for a new/renovated arena on their own while Nassau County owned the building which is how by Oct 2012/millions in losses later Wang made an agreement elsewhere even with his hotel sitting next door.
Nassau found someone who will renovate, and will pay for the privilege in Bruce Ratner, exactly as Gulotta demanded while the Counrty makes money.
Everywhere else the local team was a public trust where the teams got hundreds of millions from the taxpayers to keep them. (Ok, you read that here enough/back on topic)
Even with the league operating the franchise, Phoenix had a lease agreement with whoever operated/owned the Coyotes which was reworked many times prior to 2013.
On 7/3/13 Local council voted 4-3 in favor on a 15-year, $225 million lease agreement with Renaissance Sports & Entertainment during a special session.
The vote allowed RSE to purchase the Coyotes from the NHL, which has been running the team the past four years.
RSE announced a partnership with Global Spectrum, which owns the Philadelphia Flyers, to help manage Jobing.com Arena.
Global Spectrum is a fancy name for Smg or the current company that manages the Nassau Coliseum until summer 2015 when they are out for good.
In short for the Coyotes to be relocated RSE has to get permission to break the lease from the local council in Glendale, and have to negotiate terms with Smg to be out of their obligation.
#ISLES NEWS: Islanders to play second @NHL game at their future home @BarclaysCenter in Brooklyn on September 26 - http://t.co/xufT0e0NI5
— NYIslanders (@NYIslanders) April 22, 2014
Nice to see the general manager still speaks to the teams website about something. No, waiting an extra three months to announce a preseason game is not a huge deal. but it does not help sales.
Like the two previously scheduled games (one cancelled with lockout) this should have been announced in January 2014.
I did however expect Garth Snow/Jack Capuano to do interviews about the season.
To date they have have not done one interview on the teams website so it likely speaks to a possible change with an incoming ownership. Capuano has spoken daily all season, he left Buffalo without a word since as exit interviews were done.
Yes, I was well aware both spoke (and Weight) at a team event in Westbury, and Snow has other interviews scheduled for May. But this team has a website, our fans deserve answers from the hockey management on that website.
More interviews will be done on 4/21 in Bridgeport.
I wrote in the last entry, all bets are off on current management if a new owner comes in or the club even relocating to the Barclay's Center if the lease can be broken. That includes the teams name/logo under new ownership.
To date still no Barclay's preseason game announcement for 2014.
Charles Wang kept the staff when he came in, he paid for his loyalty to Mike Milbury despite the playoff appearances. If there is a sale, don't count on that happening again.
As for Howard Dolgon, either you're friend purchases the team or give it a rest, fans with long memories remember the full year of Bob Gutkowski/Charles Koppelman rumors that were folly.
My preference is Charles Wang stays, the ownership was never the problem here, Nassau County/TOH was/is.
As I wrote years earlier with Wang approaching seventy, he likely wants to move on, and has had enough abuse for fifteen years of spending far more than the Nassau Coliseum's revenue streams ever allowed.
Stop with the real estate because it's well documented owning the New York Islanders was not about real estate for Mr Wang. He agreed to a deal without it for the referendum, and no yearly check from Nassau like some NHL teams receive. Developer Scott Rechler was also not part of the 2011 referendum.
They even had one more win in the final forty eight games this year vs last year.
Regardless of the ping pong ball results, Garth Snow, who has until 6/1 to decide whether to defer the pick, made clear he may give the selection to Buffalo this summer even if it's a top ten pick with future lottery changes designed to give many more teams a shot at the #1 overall pick.
Bottom line if 2014 is the equivalent of the 2000 NHL draft, where the fifth overall means Raffi Torres quality you have to give Buffalo the pick, hoping for a 2003 draft next summer where a 10-20-30th selection means a better/equal potential talent.
If 2014-15 is another 34-37-11 (or worse) and league changes give advantages to teams that have missed the playoffs for long periods, you take the chance of drafting a generational talent next summer.
Anyone who has read this site knows my thoughts are teams who get x amount of lottery picks in a row, should forfeit their selection, but I do not get a vote.
If a sale of the club is announced, all bets are off on the current management/coaching staff.
Sadly this is a league of trends by owners, the current one is hire a bunch of team president's with no management experience because they were great players or former announcers?
I guess Garth Snow's former teammate in Vancouver, Trevor Linden, got more positive press so his inexperience is overlooked/ignored/omitted.
An ownership change could happen here with the draft/free agency handled by scouting staffs while a new ownership comes in with no general manager/coach, sometimes you get the best results under the radar.
Do I feel the current management needs to be changed? No, they get one more year.
17-5-2 on the road, and a strong finish with hard work visible every game says a lot about the coaching staff.
Teams that finish poorly, with players looking lost in games require management changes. This team works hard, and by their comments support/respect this coach.
Snow had a poor summer a year ago in a terrible free agent market. If he had fifty million to offer Vanek, someone else will take it on 7/1/14 or you give that to players already here.
Career years by Tavares, Nielsen, Okposo, and a solid finish by Lee, Nelson, deHaan, also speak to the coaching staff being a positive internally. Nielsen shocked me frankly, but correctly blamed himself for his defensive play hurting the club which it did often.
His mistake against Tampa (up 2-0 with three minutes left) stood out more than his goal numbers for me.
But next year should be the last call for anything but winning or it's time for management changes.
The injuries will take care of themselves one way or another.
I do not see Ryan Strome as ready. Too weak in the corners, not strong enough on the puck at five on five, a powerplay goal from an outside shot I would not call a great offensive play. I do think he's on the right track, but he should not be guaranteed anything despite being a top AHL player already.
Players like Casey Cizikas should be a little worried for his job, same for Colin McDonald, who both struggled badly for long periods. Bailey's 24 and needs an Okposo-like breakout, so the pressure is absolutely on for him.
The Matt Martin who scored some goals down the stretch has to do that all 82 games, his hit totals are only a stat that did not win many games.
Brian Strait has two years left on his contract, Carkner one, both should face pressure to keep their spot on this roster.
Kevin Czuczman's going to face tough competition, he did not look out of place for someone coming in from college.
Anders Lee is Garth Snow's biggest problem, he would be wise to go long-term. Calvin deHaan should also get his long-term deal.
The goaltending is going to get dicey. Management sent Poulin back down, Nilsson's body language reflected a goaltender struggling worse than callups years earlier, despite his five hundred record. His best moment was his confident/compact movement against Buffalo in the season ending shootout.
A starter has to be decided, I'm not sure Nabokov is going to be that goaltender again, and to retain him as a backup could mean the loss of the prospect goalies.
Bridgeport has a season to conclude next weekend, Scott Pellerin's contract is up. Unlike last year, he cannot be blamed for the club's record with so many call-ups/injuries. His team went from 12-2, to about 0-13-2 recently.
Let's just say it's going to be interesting if Islander roster players want to participate in the World Championships.
Some players who went to Bridgeport on PTO's have to be signed by 5/31, so do other defenders from the 2012 draft. I doubt all of them will be.
This franchise has the worst professional media among North America sports teams.
It's only going to continue to get worse between the amateur fan bloggers marketing themselves above anything else vs the professional media in other places reduced to cheerleaders of the team that subsidizes their income/resume doing their selective hit-jobs from a far because they absolutely cannot do it about their employers teams.
Bottom line you have to see through the double-standards.
Hopefully the Islanders send the amateur bloggers packing, in retrospective the idea was a mistake that helped give newspaper editors already dropping coverage an excuse not to spend the money or assign a beat writer.
Vanek 44 points in 47 games with a plus rating.
Tavares second in NHL scoring for a good portion of year.
Career high numbers for Okposo, Nielsen.
Among worst special teams in NHL for most of the season.
Thirty games scoreless for Bailey, Grabner, while #12 had a career high in points.
0-11-1 on road earlier.
17-5-2 on the road over the last twenty four games.
All the earlier blown leads against top teams in the final minutes.
All the comeback wins down two goals.
Seven goal third period in Vancouver.
4-1-1 at Nassau Coliseum West/Newark.
13 home wins (including shootouts) tied for 30th in NHL.
It's all just numbers in a long season that ultimately was a complete failure where management declared it was time to win. This team never even got started until it was too late.
Sure it's nice a lot of kids look great, and are producing well with a team that is in every game, and works very hard more than most NHL teams on average with few clunkers.
This was with an Eastern Conference that badly underperformed with sixteen teams, the two former Western Conference teams qualifying.
Ultimately what does that mean for 2014-15? Nothing.
The only way to prove anything happening now really matters will come with winning next season.
Forwards signed for 2014-15:
RFA: Cizikas, Lee
Others signed/waiting: Sundstrom, Persson, Quine, Halmo
Defenders signed for 2014-15
Hamonic, Czurczman, Hickey, Strait, Carkner, Donovan, Visnovsky.
Others signed/waiting: Mayfield, Ness Pedan, Reinhart, Pulock, Pelech.
(Vaugh AHL contract)
2013 drafted defenders due contracts by 5/31/14.
Sadly, Chico Resch, is leaving Msg to return to Minnesota. First class New York Islander, and Devils broadcaster.
John Tavares Wednesday at Smile Train's Power of a Smile Gala at Barclays Center:
“You don’t have any control over that stuff, so you try not to worry about it and just try to focus on doing what you’re supposed to do, preparing yourself to play, playing each day, and obviously in my case, doing everything I can in rehab.”
“Hopefully that stuff gets taken care of. It’s something that it’s always good to have that stability. Charles has provided that for a long time. If there’s a change, there’s a change, but I know how much he’s invested in this team and this organization, and we’re looking forward to the future.”
“That’s for management and ownership to figure out,” he said. “Charles is gonna do what he thinks is best and what’s in his interest. We as players, we just have to go play the game. We can’t let that stuff worry us.”**************************************
Not like the Daily News has the budget to cover these things called hockey games, Mike Milbury's corporate bicycle still works for something to help the News reach the coverage cap floor with the AP.
Not a classic in Ottawa, but the kids (looked tired) keep winning. 14-4-2 last twenty road games.
Edmonton Journal: Oil Kings Head Coach, Derek Laxdal had comments on Ryan Pulock and Griffin Reinhart.
That would be former Islander player, Derek Laxdal for those scoring at home.
Pulock/Reinhart also comment.
Over 130 LIA members listen to Bruce Ratner speak about the redevelopment of the Nassau Colisieum pic.twitter.com/NBAZovRF2D— Long Island Assoc (@LongIslandAssoc) April 1, 2014
Bruce Ratner says they will start restoration on the Nassau Colisieum in about a year and will take about 15 months to complete— Long Island Assoc (@LongIslandAssoc) April 1, 2014
The rest will be just a lot of rumors/gossip/guess work/noise from media who never cover this team's games, about owners/revenue streams.
It means nothing.
We'll know if/when we know.
No one's coming here to start spending seventy million on payroll or giving free agents bonus money of twenty million dollars in a single year of a contract. (front-loading)
On the ice, the club is working very hard, the 13-4-2 on the road record is a heck of a number but overall it means nothing.
Before that 13-4-2 the Isles went 0-11-1 on the road.
Hopefully the final games pass quietly without further injury.