7/21/08

Islander Notables

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/21/2008 01:09:00 PM
Boston Globe: Fluto Shinzawa notes the Newsday report about Scott Gordon being listed for an interview and adds Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli has repeatedly said he wouldn't stand in Gordon's way if he were offered an NHL head coach's job, so it's likely that the Bruins will allow the former goalie to interview with the Islanders if they come calling.

THN.com: Adam Proteau's article asks why is Ted Nolan being demonized in some circles and insists this is nothing like his circumstances in Buffalo while getting the impression back in April Nolan would not be returning from his final interview with him but feels he should get another chance.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
I'm surprised Mr Proteau waited this long for his Islanders-bash fest (this was one of his milder ones) but he did put some blame on both sides without really giving us anything but personal speculation from what obviously is a distance to where what he writes has little value.

Of course he does get right the gm having his way vs the coach needing to win now is not unheard of in sports but aside from that an article that tells us little because frankly he does not know anything.

Quick Hits:
Sporting News/uncredited did a rip job on the Islanders for the last twenty years with a lot of old photos to make it's point in kind of a picture/caption rip job.

SI.com: John Rolfe apparently followed up the twenty seven page caption with an article bashing the Isles for the last twenty plus years where he knew so little about the club he put Bergenheim in Fedotenko's spot as his replacement and put in his article Neil Smith resigned when he was in fact fired.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
So now the Islanders, a team that has been to the NHL playoffs four of the last six year are on par with sports clubs that have not seen a playoff or close to a five hundred record for a decade or longer? Not going to tell anyone here outside of 2002 the product has been anything but mediocre but this comes off as piling on and nothing else. Maybe Mr Rolfe is doing what he can to get the club out of here because the Rangers did not take that kind of beating over eight years nor did he write articles telling people to essentially stay home.

Funny how St Louis, Florida, Phoenix, Los Angeles (who fired a coach hired the same summer Ted Nolan was hired) among others did not get this kind of article?

John Rolfe usually does one of these a year on the Isles no matter what their record is.

THN.com: Ken Campbell declares Paul Maurice is a front runner for the Islanders job because he is a good company man who will essentially do what the general manager says and not get involced in office politics.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Paul Maurice according to Mr Campbell is now the front-runner for the Islanders coaches job? Seems like some of these writers throw anything against the wall hoping it sticks because no one else has written that anywhere and if that were the case the club would not be trying to interview so many potential coaches.

It's summer not, much going on so it's time for the armchair experts who cannot name five Islanders to come out in droves.





7/20/08

Until a coach is hired Isles in neutral

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/20/2008 03:52:00 PM
Of course teams do not play games in July but for now the club is in neutral until they can add a coach who is on board with what the general manager's vision for his franchise in the long term.

Until we know what kind of coach is hired and what his philosophy will be is were stuck in terms of what kind of discussion we can have moving forward.

No doubt Ted Nolan had his favorites among prospects/veterans and many of those players had to win him over with their play and this will be the same with a new coach who will form his own impressions. A player who did well under Ted Nolan may struggle under a new coach and a player who struggled under Nolan may do better with another coach.

We have read alot about the defensive system being a problem, will a change help prevent goals but also prevent scoring, is there a balance?

A player like Bergenheim or even a Robert Nilsson may have been popular with Steve Stirling/Brad Shaw but both had to almost start from scratch with Ted Nolan.

Bergenheim won over his coach while Nilsson was demoted on day one of camp not being allowed to go with the A group when the squads were split.

This will be the same with the current group of players and prospects, some will thrive while others will struggle in competition.

Until a coach is hired all we can do is watch and wait.










Islander Sunday Notables

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/20/2008 02:54:00 PM
Islanders website: Jason Lockhart has an article on first round pick Josh Bailey which wraps up prospect camp with his comments as he looks ahead to training camp.

Point Blank: Mr Botta decided to keep his blog going for a while longer and has a few words about what the club should be looking for in it's next head coach and takes a look at the current names scheduled for interviews.

Ottawa Sun/several sources: Has more on IIHF suspending several players (including Nikita Filatov) from international competition which does not have the NHLPA happy given the recent agreement for all leagues to respect contracts already signed with other leagues.

Montreal Gazette: David Yates reports on Mike Bossy taking part in the Chevrolet Safe and Fun Hockey program with women's national team star Caroline Ouellette and coaches from Hockey Canada with his comments.






7/19/08

Islander News Articles 7/20

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/19/2008 11:45:00 PM
Islanders website: Garth Snow comments on the signing of Frans Nielsen to a multi-year contract.

Newsday: Greg Logan reports former Leafs coach Paul Maurice will be the first who will interview for the head coaches job on Monday with the list of confirmed coaching candidates including John Tortorella and his assistant, Mike Sullivan. Snow still is waiting for approval to interview Bob Hartley and Providence Bruins coach Scott Gordon on a list that will also include Joel Quenneville and Gerard Gallant.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
It should be noted just the other day Bruins assistant general manager said the Islanders had not asked for permission to speak with Scott Gordon. Obviously this is going to be a long process for Garth Snow and the club, it will be interesting if a team does not allow the Isles permission to speak with someone but most teams do want to reward their current employees or try and get the financial hit off the books with their former employees.

Newsday: Greg Logan has another article that is mostly a recap of last weeks articles on the problems between coach and general manger that now includes the problems began last summer when they were unable to add free agents. Again it has the full summary of all the un-named players and what supposedly transpired behind the scenes but now adds how Miroslav Satan was not handled properly by the coach, that several players caught Nolan in false statements and the coach was fuming with the general manger saying the club had underachieved with a lot of speculation not supported by a single quote from anyone.

Only actual quotes here are from Garth Snow earlier this week who talks about his plan to add youth and that the club did make some offers above what some other clubs did last summer that did not include any comment about front-loaded contracts or bonus money.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
I do not read this much dirty laundry aired by reporters for other teams who fire coaches or have problems? Like I wrote the other day when there is good news around the club it's barely touched upon much less given the same sustained hype this kind of information is. This would be a little more tolerable if the same applied to all things Islanders when reported in the paper and for me raises fair questions as to the motivation at Newsday to cover the club in this manner given Newsday did not have an Islander centric feature update on Sunday from Mr Logan all season but did have Mr Zipay write the Sunday NHL feature that always had a Ranger slant.

This does not even begin to address the mistakes/contradictions in reporting or retractions by the paper.

Bottom line unless Garth Snow or Ted Nolan have something new to say or a player wants to give his name and say what happened is this really necessary?


Boston Globe: Fluto Shinzawa reports the Islanders will play a second preseason game against them on October 4th in addition to the one on September 23rd in Moncton.

Boston Globe:Fluto Shinzawa has some very interesting comments from former Sound Tiger coach Greg Cronin who also used to coach at the University of Maine which is Garth Snow's alma mater that he spoke to the Islander general manger last weekend briefly and never brought anything up along the lines of a coaching change and that Monday's announcement surprised him but he had heard the stories about friction but never through the general manager and is quoted as saying the gm and coach must both have the same vision and gives us a Mike Milbury story when he was coaching in Bridgeport...............

"I remember asking Mike, 'What are we? What are we doing? Are we a big, strong, physical team? Are we quick?' He got all [upset] at me, thinking I was questioning his direction. I was trying to prepare guys for the NHL and wanted to know what identity we were trying to replicate down here."

"He threw a napkin at me and told me to shut up," Cronin said with a laugh. "Something about, 'You're the All-Star coach in the AHL so you think you know everything.' Mike was all about balance. I know that isn't a real sexy word. But he wanted bigger defensemen with mobility and forwards for a fast-paced game, forwards that relied on possession."


Mr Shinwaza also has comments from Ben Walter's agent (named Fee) that he needs to be on the first three lines to be effective but will work hard regardless of his role and that he fully expects his client to become an NHL player while the writer gives us some background.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Do not like putting the quotes in from the paper but this is a registration site.


Ct Post: Michael Fornabaio in his Sound Tigers blog has a few words on the club signing Frans Nielsen with a lot of other items.

Quick hits:
Dick Ebersol is expected to announce he is stepping down from NBC sports after the upcoming Olympics so hopefully that ends the very cozy relationship with Madison Square Garden where the Network used to have a small stake in Msg.






Tampa permits NY to speak with Tortorella

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/19/2008 01:47:00 AM
Tampa Tribune: Erik Erlendsson reports the Tribune has learned the Islanders have contacted Tampa Bay seeking permission to speak to former Stanley Cup winning coach John Tortorella and have granted their request along with that of Mike Sullivan, an assistant with Tortorella last year although it was unclear whether that was for a head coaching or assistant's job.

Tortorella and Sullivan both have a year remaining on their contracts with Tampa Bay which is why the Isles needed permission, the former coach reportedly was making 1.3 million.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Mike Sullivan was the former Bruins coach for those who recall. Larry Brooks will not be a happy man if the Isles come to terms with Tortorella.

Let the games begin.



Anyone else have a flashback to summer 1995 after that video when the Isles last hired a relatively successful coach. Of course Tortorella comes with a Stanley Cup ring.







7/18/08

Islander News Articles 7/19

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/18/2008 10:43:00 PM
Newsday: Greg Logan has comments from assistant general manager Ryan Jankowski on prospect Jesse Joensuu who had a hat-trick Friday to conclude prospects camp, Blake Comeau who had three assist working with Joensuu on a line also talks about how impressed he was with the young propsect's ability as a power forward with handling the puck.

Mr Logan also reports Garth Snow indicated he expects to begin interviewing candidates for the next head coach sometime next week.

Cape Brenton Post: T.J. Colello has a few words from Aaron Johnson who signed with Chicago last week that he considered last season with the club a wash in the short time he played here.




Frans Nielsen signed four years/2.1m

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/18/2008 09:47:00 PM
Newsday: Greg Logan reports in the Islanders Newsday blog the club has signed center Frans Nielsen to a four year contract totaling 2.1 million that includes a one-way provision in each year of the deal, with Mr Logan writing it virtually assures Nielsen will be on the Islanders roster.

Mr Logan also reports Bruno Gervais was at prospect camp Friday, is said to be in top condition and that negotiations on the club's final restricted free agent are progressing amicably.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
The one-way contracts are filling up the roster but this puts an end to speculation Nielsen would be returning to Bridgeport and another great signing by Garth Snow to lock him up for this long.

Personally this also brings a big smile for all the e-mails I exchanged with his family when I was covering prospects years ago.

Congratulations to Frans Nielsen and the beginning of a long and great NHL career.









Newsday's lack of class continues

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/18/2008 09:35:00 PM
Newsday: Steve Zipay who does the reports on media in the paper reviews the upcoming schedule and tells us the Islanders season finale at home against Boston on 4/12 determines Islanders' final standing for the NHL draft, so in other words the club will not be making the playoffs.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Just another example of how poorly Newsday treats this club. They are very good at the sensationalism game or stirring the pot and taking their digs but funny how when a player does well here all we read is they are considered under-rated in NHL circles because they do now show the same enthusiasm to hype the club as they do to take some shots.

I expect this level of reporting from an admitted Ranger fan like Mr Zipay but as usual Newsday not only gets behind anything that could be wrong with the Islanders but has no problem giving it a push.

A push they do not give when the team or it's players do well.

Mr Zipay sure did not take these kicks at the Rangers when they were missing the playoffs all those years or when Mr Logan was covering them.

To me that is a double-standard.




Final Poll Results: Left Wing

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/18/2008 07:45:00 PM
It started off as the most popular poll on the site to date only to be passed by the new coaches poll but deciding the left wing positions I thought going in would make for a lot of diversity in the voting and one of the best polls to date.

Needless to write it was a tough choice for everyone and it did live up to my expectations. Great job by everyone as always.

We started this poll with a coach and ended it without one and it's fair to speculate some of those philosophical differences may have been over the left wings on the roster.

Going by the majority for each line these were the results:
Bergenheim first line 30 (37%)
Comeau second line 31 (38%)
Sim third line 33 (40%)
Sim fourth line 27 (33%)

Obviously Tambellini was a very tough call no one could vote a majority for him to be the choice at any spot among the four lines.

Needless to write the next coach will have a very tough choice as well.
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Tambellini first line 21 (25%)
Tambellini second line 24 (29%)
Tambellini third line 11 (13%)
Tambellini fourth line 19 (23%)

Bergenheim second line 16 (19%)
Bergenheim third line 17 (20%)
Bergenheim fourth line 7 (8%)

Sim first line 3 (3%)
SIm second line 6 (7%)

Comeau first line 19 (23%)
Comeau third line 8 (9%)
Comeau fourth line 14 (17%)

Someone else will be traded, demoted, injured so all play above fourth line 4 (4%)
Tambellini, Comeau, Sim or Bergenheinm will be traded, demoted, injured 5 (6%)







Prospect Camp Highlights: Day Five

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/18/2008 07:21:00 PM














Islanders website: Jason Lockhart reports on the final day of prospects camp with Jesse Joensuu netting a hat-trick as Team Trottier takes Shakey Cup in a 5-3 victory. Blake Comeau sets up three goals. Comments from Joensuu, Islanders assistant coach Dan Lacroix and Matt Martin who got pointers from Joel Rechlicz on fighting after scrimmage.

Islanders Website: John Hill has a feature on camp invitee Vladimir Nikiforov from Huntington who played for the Sarnia Sting who is also here with teammates and Islander draft picks Justin DiBenedetto, Matt Martin and Mark Katic.

BCHL.com: Has a feature on camp invitee Anthony Perdicaro.





Snow expected to get rid of Nolan? Very Doubtful

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/18/2008 01:29:00 AM
We see teams make coaching changes all the time, a few days after one goes another is announced almost immediately or the media knows who it will be like with Barry Melrose, the handwriting is almost always on the wall.

Thanks to Mr Botta we knew there were problems a while back but even he did not anticipate a change or write one was coming and he knew Weight would be signed.

Maybe Garth Snow wanted Nolan out for a long time, but given how things are playing out now it's doubtful he expected he would be out. Maybe Nolan wanted out of here unless he got his contract and some control over the decision making process.

If Snow felt a change had to be made it would have been done before the draft, free agency and the prospects came here for camp unless he really had to lobby Charles Wang hard for permission to make a change and finally convinced him recently that this was not going to work.

I do believe this is a decision that was arrived at Monday for whatever we want to speculate happened behind closed doors.

If Newsday is correct and Nolan was given permission to interview for other jobs Garth Snow would have been doing interviews for his replacement long before Monday and had his list and mostly likely his choice already. We all know an NHL source would have reported Ted Nolan interviewed somewhere or made some calls and broke the story he could look for work.

This seems like something that just started with Monday and now Snow has to take his time and find a replacement so to me it indicates this was not something planned or in the works or a new coach would have been settled in advance already.

Still it does not excuse all the denials on their working relationship from either of them.

Will be very interesting if Snow cannot find anyone he is satisfied with or cannot find a coach willing to endorse his plan if he again turns back to Ted Nolan in some capacity.

I know that's a huge reach but we have seen these things in sports, sometimes both sides do not like how things ended and want to work together on some level or feel bad about how it ended.

Depends on the individuals, does not seem like Ted Nolan's way given how he left Buffalo. I'm not sure about Snow as a general manager but if Mr Botta felt a few of his comments in the press were over the line it does not seem his way either.








Islander News Articles 7/18

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/18/2008 12:22:00 AM
Newsday: Greg Logan has an interview with Islanders prospect Josh Bailey, how he has been paired with Kyle Okposo in camp as he talks about his experience last season, chances of making the Islanders and the pressure of being selected after the club traded down for him vs going back to Windsor as captain of the Spitfires next season.

Assistant general manager Ryan Jankowski also comments.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
For those wondering Bailey's NHL circumstances are simple. He can play nine games with New York this season to open the year, after that he can only be returned to Windsor or finish out the season with the Isles, there is no Bridgeport option for Bailey.

Same as Tim Connolly in 1999.

Newsday: Jim Baumbach covers the Islander prospects playing paintball with a few words from Josh Bailey and camp invitee Anthony Perdicaro.

Ct Post: Michael Fornabaio has a feature on prospect Rob Hennigar with his comments, reports Sound Tigers coach Bernie Cassell will not be back with the Sound Tigers in 2008-09, for personal reasons and has a few words from Boston University sophomore Joe Pereira who was invited for the week to the Islanders' development camp.

Doug MacLean who was a guest host on Fan590 on Thuesday mentioned Gerard Gallant interviewed for the Islanders job. MacLean is the former Jackets gm, Gallant the former Jackets coach.

Thusday pm:
Boston Globe: Fluto Shinzawa in the Bruins blog reports to this point the Islanders have not asked for permission to speak with AHL Providence Bruins coach, Scott Gordon with assistant general manager Jim Benning's comments.

Tsn.ca: Scott Cullen has an article on the upside and potential downside of signing Doug Weight and Mark Streit.





Prospect Camp Highlights Day Four

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/18/2008 12:08:00 AM











Islanders website: Jason Lockhart, John Hill and Jason Remsbecker recap day four of prospect camp with Team Morrow winning the scrimmage game 5-3 highlighted by comments from Bryan Trottier, Blake Comeau, Jesse Joensuu, David Ullstrom, Joel Rechlicz and Trevor Smith.

Islanders website: Allison Chen has a feature on prospect Doug Rogers.

Sound Tigers website: Features a full interview with Kyle Okposo as he talks about his experience last season and what's ahead.





7/17/08

New York Islanders 08-09 Schedule

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/17/2008 12:11:00 PM
2008-2009 Regular Season Schedule/Results

All links on the blog are updated with the schedule as well.
That six game road trip in March looks like a very tough one.
Potential there for some NBC games given times listed.

No three games twenty days sets, some actual three and four day breaks at a time when they will be needed.

Islander fans will get a chance to welcome back Ryan Smyth and Mark Parrish next season.

October 2008
Fri Oct 10, 2008 Islanders Devils 7:00 PM
Sat Oct 11, 2008 Blues Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon Oct 13, 2008 Sabres Islanders 2:00 PM
Thu Oct 16, 2008 Islanders Lightning 7:30 PM
Sat Oct 18, 2008 Islanders Panthers 7:00 PM
Thu Oct 23, 2008 Stars Islanders 7:00 PM
Sat Oct 25, 2008 Hurricanes Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon Oct 27, 2008 Rangers Islanders 7:00 PM
Thu Oct 30, 2008 Islanders Flyers 7:00 PM

November 2008
Sat Nov 1, 2008 Canadiens Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon Nov 3, 2008 Blue Jackets Islanders 7:00 PM
Tue Nov 4, 2008 Islanders Rangers 7:00 PM
Thu Nov 6, 2008 Islanders Thrashers 7:00 PM
Sat Nov 8, 2008 Penguins Islanders 7:00 PM
Tue Nov 11, 2008 Flyers Islanders 2:00 PM
Thu Nov 13, 2008 Islanders Senators 7:30 PM
Sat Nov 15, 2008 Senators Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon Nov 17, 2008 Canucks Islanders 7:00 PM
Fri Nov 21, 2008 Islanders Devils 7:00 PM
Sat Nov 22, 2008 Islanders Sabres 7:00 PM
Mon Nov 24, 2008 Islanders Canadiens 7:30 PM
Wed Nov 26, 2008 Penguins Islanders 7:00 PM
Fri Nov 28, 2008 Islanders Bruins 12:00 PM
Sat Nov 29, 2008 Senators Islanders 7:00 PM

December 2008
Thu Dec 4, 2008 Islanders Capitals 7:00 PM
Sat Dec 6, 2008 Thrashers Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon Dec 8, 2008 Islanders Maple Leafs 7:30 PM
Tue Dec 9, 2008 Islanders Flyers 7:00 PM
Thu Dec 11, 2008 Islanders Penguins 7:30 PM
Sat Dec 13, 2008 Islanders Blue Jackets 7:00 PM
Tue Dec 16, 2008 Capitals Islanders 7:00 PM
Fri Dec 19, 2008 Islanders Wild 8:00 PM
Sat Dec 20, 2008 Islanders Predators 8:00 PM
Tue Dec 23, 2008 Thrashers Islanders 7:00 PM
Fri Dec 26, 2008 Maple Leafs Islanders 7:00 PM
Sat Dec 27, 2008 Islanders Sabres 7:00 PM
Mon Dec 29, 2008 Islanders Rangers 7:00 PM
Wed Dec 31, 2008 Panthers Islanders 2:00 PM

January 2009
Fri Jan 2, 2009 Islanders Coyotes 9:00 PM
Sat Jan 3, 2009 Islanders Sharks 10:30 PM
Mon Jan 5, 2009 Islanders Oilers 9:00 PM
Thu Jan 8, 2009 Islanders Flames 9:00 PM
Tue Jan 13, 2009 Rangers Islanders 7:00 PM
Thu Jan 15, 2009 Bruins Islanders 7:00 PM
Sat Jan 17, 2009 Devils Islanders 7:00 PM
Mon Jan 19, 2009 Capitals Islanders 2:00 PM
Wed Jan 21, 2009 Ducks Islanders 7:00 PM
Thu Jan 29, 2009 Islanders Thrashers 7:00 PM
Sat Jan 31, 2009 Panthers Islanders 7:00 PM

February 2009
Tue Feb 3, 2009 Lightning Islanders 7:00 PM
Thu Feb 5, 2009 Islanders Panthers 7:30 PM
Sat Feb 7, 2009 Islanders Lightning 7:30 PM
Tue Feb 10, 2009 Kings Islanders 7:00 PM
Wed Feb 11, 2009 Islanders Devils 7:00 PM
Sat Feb 14, 2009 Islanders Flyers 1:00 PM
Mon Feb 16, 2009 Penguins Islanders 2:00 PM
Wed Feb 18, 2009 Islanders Rangers 7:00 PM
Thu Feb 19, 2009 Hurricanes Islanders 7:00 PM
Sat Feb 21, 2009 Devils Islanders 7:00 PM
Wed Feb 25, 2009 Islanders Penguins 7:30 PM
Thu Feb 26, 2009 Maple Leafs Islanders 7:00 PM
Sat Feb 28, 2009 Sabres Islanders 7:00 PM

March 2009
Mon Mar 2, 2009 Avalanche Islanders 7:00 PM
Thu Mar 5, 2009 Rangers Islanders 7:00 PM
Sat Mar 7, 2009 Devils Islanders 2:00 PM
Sun Mar 8, 2009 Coyotes Islanders 3:00 PM
Tue Mar 10, 2009 Islanders Maple Leafs 7:30 PM
Thu Mar 12, 2009 Islanders Canadiens 7:30 PM
Sat Mar 14, 2009 Islanders Bruins 1:00 PM
Sun Mar 15, 2009 Islanders Blackhawks 3:00 PM
Fri Mar 20, 2009 Islanders Hurricanes 7:00 PM
Sat Mar 21, 2009 Islanders Senators 7:00 PM
Wed Mar 25, 2009 Wild Islanders 7:00 PM
Fri Mar 27, 2009 Islanders Red Wings 7:30 PM
Sat Mar 28, 2009 Flyers Islanders 7:00 PM

April 2009
Wed Apr 1, 2009 Islanders Capitals 7:00 PM
Thu Apr 2, 2009 Canadiens Islanders 7:00 PM
Sat Apr 4, 2009 Lightning Islanders 7:00 PM
Tue Apr 7, 2009 Islanders Hurricanes 7:00 PM
Thu Apr 9, 2009 Islanders Penguins 7:30 PM
Sat Apr 11, 2009 Flyers Islanders 2:00 PM
Sun Apr 12, 2009 Bruins Islanders 5:00 PM








A few words on P-Bruins coach Scott Gordon

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/17/2008 11:33:00 AM
Providence Journal: Joe McDonald had an article from 2/25/07 about Scott Gordon and his coaching backgroud about how qualified/ready this man seems ready to become an NHL coach on top of winning the Louis A.R. Pieri Memorial Award for American Hockey League coach of the year. In his fifth season as head coach, Gordon led the Bruins to a league-best 53-16-3-4 record.

Boston Globe: Fluto Shinzawa reports on Scott Gordon working with the Bruins prospects at their camp this week.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
I do recall he was down to the wire for the Bruins job last summer before Claude Julien was hired by Peter Chiarelli, at the time some speculated Chiarelli needed a friend given the Bruins upper management problems off a tough season but given the on ice results the right selection was made as Julien did an outstanding job.

For those wondering Scott Gordon is a former goaltender also from Boston for some connections to Garth Snow, Peter Laviolette and Mike Milbury. Given he is under contract the Bruins could stand in the way of hiring him.





Garth Snow's problem, produce NHL talents

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/17/2008 08:13:00 AM
It's all well and good for a general manager to want to stick to a plan and build a young core with his draft picks and develop his talent. It is the right plan and how you build a team to win for a club that does not go all out for unrestricted free agents with even clubs that spend a lot of money having to develop some home grown players.

It's also amusing to read some writers who cannot name ten players on the roster talk about the Islander prospects and note they have no blue chip talents outside of Okposo which is true but still a lot of clubs prospects are built with lower round draft picks while here there are a lot of first and second rounders that are getting a chance or will be getting one soon.

It should give the Isles an advantage but so far it has not given them anything.

Of course teams stocked with a lot of top prospects can stick around together for years can ultimately fail. We have seen that in Florida while the core in Columbus and Atlanta has still done virtually nothing in terms of sustained winning. A club like the Kings has still not turned it around with a wealth of young talent while for all the talk about the Hawks getting closer it's been forever since they have done any real winning and the same goes in Phoenix.

Which leads us to the Islanders and Garth Snow's real problem which is what does he do if his prospect system produces as little as Mike Milbury since 2001?

A few surprises like Gervais, Campoli and even Martinek if you want to go back that far broke through and made it but not nearly enough for a club that has not had a drafted forward below a third line play a shift for this franchise in this decade much less come close to breaking through. Other than Mattias Weinhandl who even got a look?

That has to start changing, otherwise this plan will not work either. Steve Regier and a lot of players like him who never really made it or earned more than a brief recall are not going to cut it anymore.

What do the Isles have going for them? A lot more draft players signed and in the system and some competition.




7/16/08

Islander News Articles 7/17

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/16/2008 11:26:00 PM
Newsday: Hark Herrmann tells us what he feels should be the requirements of the teams next head coach and gives his reasons for suggesting Joel Quenneville (as he also mentions Paul Maurice & Greg Gilbert) as the man Garth Snow should hire.

He also talks about what he calls Ted Nolan's firing even though he admits he knew nothing about what went on behind the scenes but felt they team played hard for the now former coach and that outside of Okposo there are no franchise level talents on the roster and that the veterans know Charles Wang's telephone number number also as he wished the next coach good luck.

Mr Herrmann also credits Snow in an interview at minicamp Wednesday for not only emphasizing rookies but the next coach has to communicate with veterans, nor does he equate "rebuilding" with giving up and expects his club to compete and that wins and losses do not always indicate how successful a coach is.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
It's amazing how little Mark Herrmann for all the games he covered seemed to know about the club. This team did not play very hard too many nights, he was around early on the beat covering some of those games when they scored two goals in fourteen straight games and went well into the second period before generating one quality chance. The game they took fifty three shots and did not score they worked hard, you can work hard and still not score but anyone watching can tell the difference.

You can also score a bunch of goals and play terrible. Is giving up close to forty five shots and scoring three shorthanded goals against Carolina a team working well or another team that was just as bad?

Obviously Mr Herrmann is picking up on Mr Logan who had Queneville added to the list but it would be ironic if the coach Ryan Smyth decided to sign on and play for last season signed here?

Speculation?
Quenneville would not touch the Messier-Sather Rangers a few years ago and work in the East. At least here he would know his role but given how long coaches last here it could be a tough sell, no doubt he has plenty of experience with Weight and Guerin and would be a replacement that would command respect on all levels.

Newsday: Greg Logan has comments from Kyle Okposo in minicamp about how he has to fill the void along with a player like Blake Comeau and how last year does help now that he played at this level in terms of not getting down on himself.

Mr Logan adds the name of AHL coach of the year Scott Gordon to the list of potential Islander candidates for head coach along with Quenneville in his article.

NY Post: Dan Martin has a brief update on the signings of Sean Bergenheim and Jeff Tambellini with general manager Garth Snow's comments.

Ct Post Mr Fornabaio has a late blog with some comments and will be at camp tomorrow.





Paper Ted Nolan spoke with on 5/2 blasts Isles

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/16/2008 07:50:00 PM
Sault Star: Peter Rucci blasted Islanders Owner Charles Wang and General Manager Garth Snow for their track records, the management committee and what he calls the circus atmospher around the club and makes the point Ted Nolan is better off without them while stating the former coach is a good man with a proven track record in both the NHL and major junior hockey and asks the question don't you actually have to have a philosophy before you can have "philosophical differences?"

Sault Star: The Editorial in the paper talked about the life lessons and class in his public comments Ted Nolan showed when he decided not to return while the paper repeated his quotes about his contract back on May 2nd and that even though this stings they are confident Nolan will on his feet and continue to be a good role model for natives and for all Canadians.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
This was the paper and beatwriter Ted Nolan to about his contract in on 5/2 after the club made it clear they did not want management contracts discussed in the paper.

I think I will send Mr Ruicci an e-mail with my own questions, if he responds I will post it in a blog here.







Poll updates:

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/16/2008 06:13:00 PM
One of the very rare times I have had two polls running here but of course when a coach gets fired you need an immediate poll about a replacement and of course I more than understand how disgusted/numb many of you may feel about it which is what I included and voted for.

Hopefully in the next few days along with myself some of you go back and change your votes because someone eventually is going to be hired unless Garth Snow can find someone named disgusted/numb.

You never know.

The poll on the left wing positions has ignited a firestorm of votes but more importantly shows how tough it will be to place these players being that there is a great divide on what line each player should be on among the readers.

Going by the majority for the moment:
Bergenheim would be on the first line
Comeau would be on the second line
Sim would be on the third line
Tambellini with a lot of votes for all four lines would start the season as a fourth line player.

Still about two days left, love the debate on this one.





Islander/SoundTiger/Camp Notables

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/16/2008 05:35:00 PM














Islanders website: Jason Lockhart with additional reporting from John Hill had coverage from day three of prospect camp which include comments from Shea Guthrie, Peter Mannino, Ken Morrow (who's team won 5-0) and David Toews.


Canadian Press: Had comments from Kyle Okposo, Blake Comeau and Josh Bailey about training camp this afternoon, about their careers, what's ahead along with the coaching change.

Newsday: Greg Logan in Newsday's Islander blog had comments from Bryan Trottier because he wanted to make sure what he said Monday about his loyalty and friendship with Ted Nolan should not be construed as a problem with Garth Snow or the organization as he went on to say how much he enjoys his role as director of player development and working with the prospects as he reiterated some things he told Frans Nielsen a year ago.

Sound Tigers.com: Highlights from day three of prospect camp include comments from Joe Pereira who is a sophomore at Boston University skating at this week's camp and today's scrimmage which team Morrow won 5-0 with Shea Guthrie scoring the game winning goal tying the series at 1-1.

Garth Snow had comments on ITV about the signings of Bergenheim, Tambellini, Walter and Jeremy Colliton along with a lot more prospect interviews.

Quick Hits:
The NY Post blog reported the Devils will open against the Isles October 10th which means the home opener against St Louis will be on October 11th.

Former Hockey reporter, now NY Post jack of all trades Jay Greenberg on the Ranger NY Post blog had a few digs at the Isles and how they cannot land a difference maker free agent despite the Rangers negotiating the same day with Mark Streit while the Rangers had to grossly overpay for what seems a declining Wade Redden and issue a limited no trade clause.




Bergenheim resigned by New York

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/16/2008 10:05:00 AM
Newsday: Greg Logan reports in the Islanders Newsday blog Sean Bergenheim has avoided arbitration with the club signing a two-year deal worth $1.725 million who will have one more season as a restricted free agent when the contract ends. Bergenheim will make $800,000 this season and $925,000 the following season. Garth Snow comments on the signing.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Another good signing by the general manager, obviously his former agents were a major problem in negotiations. Bergenheim gets another two years to improve his value and the club keeps his negotiating rights when the contract ends.

SoundTigers.com: Have the release on Tambellini's signing with general manager Garth Snow's comments.

Updated 4pm:
Islanders website: Had a release with Garth Snow's comments on Sean Bergenheim's extension.

Schedule Notable:
Islanders open at at New Jersey with home opener the following night against St. Louis. A lot of home Saturday night games, several matinees including holidays.




Will Nolan's favorite players be next?

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/16/2008 06:40:00 AM
A little irony to the circumstances Jeff Tambellini got his one-way contract into the NHL the day after Ted Nolan and Garth Snow parted company but that was all about the calender and the July 15th deadline for qualifying offers.

But the big question we do not know is who were the veterans who are still here are only because the now former coach wanted them here?

Is a player like Andy Hilbert or Richard Park who the coach gave more opportunities to (which they earned) next to be leaving so the club can get a little younger on a roster who's average age is still far too old at the top and a bit young at the other end with not enough productive players inbetween?

Who knows.

Plenty of ways to go with this.

Anyone ever think Ted Nolan's system held back what Hibert was able to do in Pittsburgh? I know that's a reach because you cannot teach good hands and finishing skills which he left somewhere between New York and Pittsburgh or did Nolan insist last summer that Hilbert's defensive skills were too important to lose?

It's obvious Mike Sillinger was in Nolan's corner. I blogged on this the other day about a potential Sillinger trade before the coaching decision. At his age will he want to stay without Ted Nolan and will that change Frans Nielsen's status or Ben Walter or for that matter Josh Bailey?

This decision is something that will filter through the roster and I expect some of Nolan's favorites will not be back in favor of the roster being more complete and what I mean by complete is some faster players with some potential we have not seen and a little size.

As well as a Richard Park can play, as hard as he works and for all the big shorthanded goals he can score in the end at his best he will max out at ten-fifteen goals and go at least twenty games between goals. As well as an Andy Hilbert can play defense, work in the corners and kill penalties he's going to go twenty games or more without a goal.

You add that to a Trent Hunter who has more overall upside at a young age can you afford too many players who do the same thing and not score?

Of course we now know for sure along the way this became Garth Snow's roster, we have a new coach coming with his own ideas of who can help the club improve and will have his favorites as well.

I could go up and down the lineup on that with the exception of Weight and Guerin who will be the core veterans when this begins.








7/15/08

Islander News Articles 7/16

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/15/2008 10:53:00 PM
Islanders website: Have a full update on day two of the clubs prospect camp and scrimmage game which include comments from assistant gm Ryan Jankowski, Josh Bailey, Robin Figren among several players while Bryan McCabe, Mike Komisarek, Chris Higgins practiced on the smaller ice surface.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Good stuff from camp today and a chance to see some of these prospects for the first time. Despite the coaching change it's still an exciting time and very important.

Newsday: Greg Logan reports owner Islander Charles Wang stepped in and clarified the lines of authority last season when it became obvious in the middle of year that the decision-making process was too cumbersome giving the general manger the most control over decisions.

Garth Snow comments about how his role has evolved into, again talks about the opportunity his owner gave him two years ago and what his perceptions are about himself and what he is looking to do here as general manager in the long run.

Snow also discusses what he is looking for in a head coach and expects to talk to seven to ten candidates with some only having minor-league experience but the majority having held held NHL jobs.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Anyone who has followed the club or the comments know this was not some ground breaking change of culture, the general manager had his job and what needed to be done and the coach his side of things which is the players/lockeroom. Only Ted Nolan knows if he felt slighted by that.

Mr Botta felt the committee concept was overplayed and told us so a few times in his blog also.

So now Garth Snow sets out to hire his coach and has a list. My speculation is if he has seven to ten names it could take some time and was not expecting to part company with Ted Nolan or would have had his man already.

The right thing for Mr Wang to do is give the gm a contract term equal to that of his general managers choice as coach.

NY Post: Dan Martin went to mini camp for comments from Kyle Okposo and Josh Bailey about the coaching change and the expectations for both of them in the long term about what they have to do.

Sporting News/Buffalo News: Reports " bits and pieces " of the NHL schedule will be released today with the full schedule Thursday.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Impossible to figure out the Post editor, no game coverage but draft previews and they spend the money to go Iceworks for prospect comments?

Times & Transcript: Cole Hobson has Moncton Mayor Ian Fowler comments that the coaching change in no way impacts the agreement between the city and the Islanders for the next two years and said he will miss Ted Nolan who he praised as a first class person who has a great work ethic.

Ct Post: Mr Fornabaio also reports on the contract extension with other notables in his Sound Tigers blog.

Ouick Hits:
Aaron Johnson's one year contract with Chicago is official.

Correction:
Craig Custance no longer works at the Alanta Journal Constitution, his work appears in the Sporting News.






Tambellini signed, contract updates on RFA

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/15/2008 08:45:00 PM
Newsday: Greg Logan reported in the Islanders Newsday blog forward Jeff Tambellini agreed today on a two-year deal worth $1.175 million.

Mr Logan reports Tambellini, who made a salary of $882,000 last season, including bonus money, actually took less than his qualifying offer of $660,000 for the chance to prove he belongs in the NHL in exchange for a one way contract where he will make $550,000 next season and $625,000 in 2009-10.

In addition:
Ben Walter and Jeremy Colliton both accepted the two-way qualifying offers yesterday before the 5 p.m. deadline.

Frans Nielsen and defenseman Bruno Gervais declined their qualifying offers but are continuing negotiations.

Sean Bergenheim still is headed for arbitration, but is gm said he is making progress with his new agent, Allan Walsh, which could avert a hearing.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Gervais and Nielsen's situtations get very interesting because neither have a roster spot guaranteed with Freddy Meyer under contract along with five other defenders.

Were almost to the day Campoli signed last summer.

Tambellini on a one-way contract now has to prove himself at this level or the club has a player to move if it does not work. Given our poll results no one knows where to seem to play him.




Thursday's Live Blog Cancelled

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/15/2008 08:35:00 PM
I am very sorry folks, some unexpected things came up for Thursday at 1pm so I will not be able to host a live blog as I intended.

I promise there will be more of them in the future.

Thanks as always.




Mr Wang deserves his share of blame too

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/15/2008 06:46:00 PM
Some of you may think me putting some blame on Charles Wang here is about the Islanders plan to have a committee structure.

Afraid not.

Anyone who followed the club and quotes knew was not the case even going back to 2006-07 because the coach had to work the locker room while the gm and scouting staff provided the players. Of course Ted Nolan was part of that process in the summer however for the most part at least in terms of coaching/gm it was never this board as advertised for long as even Mr Botta pointed out a while back.

Outsiders like Wallace Matthews/Scott Burnside can do that kind of article and take their shots at Mr Wang but like many of them is an insult to the die-hard fans who know that has not been the case, that is mostly wall paper for the novice instant Islander experts who could not name ten players if they tried but remember Milbury traded Luongo and start from there because it's the only place they can go when they try and write something about the club.

Even Larry Brooks proved he is so far removed from things with this team he is reduced to wallpaper and past background to go with his digs because it's all he has.

Slapshots has not learned it's 2008 for the New York Islanders and Larry Brooks only watched eight Ranger-Islander games and wrote only one article about Al Arbour otherwise he went nowhere near the Isles room and stayed in the past where it's safe for him.

Having written that....

This decision by Garth Snow and Ted Nolan will cost Charles Wang 600k to pay off the final season of his coaches contract, revenue in lost ticket sales/subscribers to go with another mountain of bad publicity and criticism of his tenure as owner.

With that comes having to give an incoming coach more term than his general manager if Mr Botta is correct and Garth Snow is still working off a one year deal to go with more money to pay an incoming coach.

Not a good deal for any owner and no doubt the kind of problem no one needs trying to get a major construction project approved that may define whether he keeps the club or moves on himself.

Charles Wang could have called both of them on the carpet months ago and told them both of you are here because I gave you a chance no one else was going to give you and we deserve better than this in the press.

Knock off the public comments, and this " they " talk, along with the " raised eyebrows " garbage and act as professionals, go into a room and work it out and act as part of a team or you both can leave.

In short what Mr Botta wrote about acting as professionals.

I do not know if Charles Wang did that, so I cannot be critical of him there because I would not know.

All I do know is he did an interview and the first quote out of his mouth was he told his coach so with regard to playing the prospects.

A comment like that only showed up his coach and was not good and deserves some blame. From there he talked about his dissatisfaction with the season as any owner who spends money and does not win should but to make a comment like that if I were coach would be a direct slap in my face and had to be kept behind closed doors.

From there you blame everyone for a losing season, including yourself.

WE.
Not Ted, Garth, whoever.
WE.

As someone writing a blog from the outside and not a professional media person I cannot give you more than that because it would only be unfair speculation on my part, I only go by the quotes.

Mr Wang you deserve your share of the blame because you said that, it was not called for.

Only you know if it contributed to what was obviously a problem and now is one that will be expensive on a lot of levels.







Prospect Camp/Islander/NHL notables

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/15/2008 05:33:00 PM
Islanders website : Has a feature on Jyri Niemi, the Islanders third-round draft pick in 2008 with his comments as he features a ninety seven mile an hour shot.

Islanders TV have several video blogs from the players in prospect camp and did a great job putting it together, too many names to list.

Sound Tigers website : Had an article on day two of mini-camp.

Telegraph Journal: Nathan White has comments from Ted Nolan who would not be opposed to coaching this season in the major junior league but for now he plans to return home to the Garden River First Nations reserve and contemplate his future. He had no regrets about taking the job, talked about having no offers for almost ten years, was thankful for the opportunity he wad given and that he judged his coaching on how hard the players competed and worked but felt with what he had the players gave what they had to give.

Christian Gaudet, who was captain for Moncton 2006 and played last season for Utah
felt Nolan leaving was unfair and that he is a great guy, person and coach and talked about his ability to communicate and motivate with his speech-making abilities.

Chris Morehouse, a member of the 2005-06 team who wore the captain's "C" for the Wildcats this season, said he was shocked, did not not think it was a smart move by the Islanders and that Ted Nolan is a really good coach and knows how to get players to play and he discussed the Memorial Cup run and brought that team together with his ability to relate to players, communicate combined with how he cares more about the person than the player.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Seems Ted Nolan had to take a lot shot at the end his players did the best they could given their talent or lack thereof, was that really called for but it is those papers in the smaller towns he seems to be most comfortable with speaking.

Espn: EJ Hradek reports Los Angeles may be interested in former Washington/Philadelphia coach Terry Murray and felt Ted Nolan's comments should have led to his dismissal but like many questioned the timing.

He also reported the NHL schedule will be released on Thursday and that the press conference on the outdoor game in Chicago will be announced next week.

Globe & Mail: Tim Wharnsby reports the Kings are in the process of finalizing a contract with Murray.

Ottawa Citizen: Ken Warren speculated Bob Hartley could be on Garth Snow's short list to be named head coach and was a finalist for the job in Ottawa.

Newsday: Kevin Allen blogged on the Islanders situtation regarding Ted Nolan and felt this was inevitable going back to the season but waited because this was Charles Wang's hire.

THN: Ryan Kennedy felt Garth Snow and Ted Nolan should have just admitted it was a firing and kept it real in his words if Greg Logan's reports were correct and also questioned the timing.






The Veterans Speak Up

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/15/2008 08:20:00 AM
Newsday: Greg Logan has comments in Newsday's Islander blog from Bill Guerin, Mike Sillinger, Rick DiPietro and Brendan Witt giving their take on the coaching change.

Bill Guerin was not shocked and said it was no secret the coach/general manager were not seeing things eye-to-eye during the year or over the summer and felt it had become a distraction from what you read in the paper, however most of the veterans have seen every situation and that young players seeing more ice time should not have a major impact.

Mike Sillinger praised Ted Nolan and talked of the great relationship between both of them, had no idea what was happening because he was injured in the second half but this was a terrible year for the club. He was contacted by Garth Snow about the change, that it's the gm's decision but it's unfortunate and enjoyed playing for his now former coach and will not be critical of anyone but that the coach always gets the blame. He also believed the club needed more youth and that they have some young players who are capable of stepping in and contributing.

Rick DiPietro felt you need to develop your talent, have good drafts and that young players need to step up and play big roles while developing a young nucleus with some veteran guys around to lead and that they are making strides in that direction with Okposo, Comeau, and Jeff Tambellini. The goaltender also felt the club needed a tighter defensive system than the one Nolan used and cited success against the Devils but when they got away from that things did not go well.

Brendan Witt for his part also felt the clubs 1-3-1 system was more successful in the coaches first season but despite problems between the coach and general manager was shocked there was a change and that there still were lingering bad feelings as he felt management would have waited for the club to struggle next season before making a change.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
In summary the captain Ted Nolan praised up and down at the end of the season and never was critical of even when he blasted his veterans knew there were problems and did not seem surprised at how this turned out and did not give him a ringing endorsement you would expect from a captain considering he is the link to the coaching staff.

Mike Sillinger admitted this year was terrible but praised Ted Nolan for the first season and did not see any problem with the coach or anyone but it's the general managers call.

Rick DiPietro like most goaltenders wanted more defense and a system that keeps them in the games better which was lacking all year as the club could not get games to overtime and a great plus/minus team a year ago became a terrible plus minus team last season.

Brendan Witt was surprised this was still going on between them and they had not worked this out by now as he also talked about the defensive system from a year ago.

Bottom Line:
All of them agreed it's time to work in more young players and let them become the core talent on the roster which is the common thread.













What will the Islander veterans tell us?

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/15/2008 07:17:00 AM
We got the deep throat game from Mr Logan and the quoted veterans who he did not name but attached their comments to, he also reported Rick DiPietro was not one of them.

Now it gets interesting. What veterans will step up, give their names and put the blame on Nolan and say they did not like the direction vs those who supported and back Ted Nolan and feel the problem rest with the players management brought in?

Will any of them say they want out and publicly demand a trade if Ted Nolan is no longer head coach or privately request they would like to move on?

What will captain Bill Guerin, Mike Comrie, Brendan Witt, Mike Sillinger, Trent Hunter, Andy Sutton, Richard Park and the rest of the older players have to say here if anything at all?

Is it fair on my part to speculate Doug Weight only spoke through Bill Guerin because he had an idea this was coming and that we will not hear anything from Weight until a new coach is hired and things settle down? I guess Mark Streit was a safe distance away in another country.

This could lead to a few more openings for prospects as Garth Snow could look to move a few players who maybe Ted Nolan wanted here.

Quick Hits:

What did get lost yesterday in the mix is what does this mean for Sean Bergenheim and those players who had to accept qualifying offers by yesterday's deadline?

I asked Mr Fornabaio in his blog, maybe he can find out for us today.

My outside/outside/outside picks for new coach:
Dave Lewis
Kevin Constantine-Houston Aeros AHL
Greg Cronin
Jeff Jackson (anyone see him in the NCAA tournament go to the finals?
Don Lucia (kidding) but at least him and Snow would be fighting to get college players to the NHL together.

Interesting in our poll it seems we have the same difference of opinion of where Jeff Tambellini should play with the vote almost split over all four lines.

Almost feel bad for this kid who seems to have been caught up in this, he may or may not make it but he deserves better and seems like a very classy person by his comments and interviews.











7/14/08

Islander News Articles 7/15

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/14/2008 10:33:00 PM
Newsday: Greg Logan has more on the change with Ted Nolan's comments he knew he had differences with Garth Snow but was just preparing for the season and for his part had no idea the end was coming until the gm called him in the office this morning agreed it would be better off to part ways. He also said from here he will just move on and take some time to go home to be with my family for a few days and that hopefully he will have another chance to coach in the league.

The now former coach also said this was nothing like the situation with Buffalo and that every coach who gets let go, there's some differences of opinions and that he is no different. That he both he and Garth Snow wished the other well and both left feeling good about what they accomplished while never once saying he was unhappy coaching here, only that he was unhappy with the record and not making the playoffs that he loved Long Island that he will certainly miss it and the fans.

Mr Logan for his part writes a league source said the Islanders gave Nolan written permission to interview with other teams after the season but he did not receive an offer then goes to a brand new angle where he quotes unnamed players who had problems with Ted Nolan but does not identify them with a lot of new stuff we have not read to date.

From there the beatwriter plays the unnamed player quote game but makes sure to point out Rick DiPietro is not the player in question nor was there an issue with playing Dubielewicz against the Rangers.

Mr Logan writes as the season came apart in March another prominent player challenged Nolan's strategic decisions where he says he was told by Ted Nolan that Charles Wang was running the show, that the player refused to accept this and went to Snow and arranged a meeting with the GM, Nolan and Wang, who denied interfering with the players quotes Nolan pretty much tried to say he didn't tell me that and portrayed him me as a liar, that the player put his -- -- on the line, and it kind of made me see him the coach in a different light.

In addition Mr Logan writes another key leader who did not want to be identified also had a falling-out with Nolan and began to question the coach's methods that he did some -- -- things, that he wasn't listening to his assistants and he was kind of going the opposite way and that everyone knew that.

Mr Logan reports Nolan declined comment on the report of the sit down with Wang, Snow and the player who challenged his authority, and he also refused comment about postseason job interviews.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
I don't know, now I guess it's time to play the unnamed player quote game and air every bit of a teams dirty laundry which is over the line to me for a club barely covered unless it's for this purpose. This could have been done months ago also by Mr Logan but given Comrie resigned, Sillinger was on the sidelines with Sutton, Hunter resigned, Witt resigned and he made clear it's not Rick DiPietro were running out of unnamed veterans unless it's one of the players who were not offered a contract, my guess is we'll never know but it keep the rumor mill spinning.

No wonder Doug Weight has had nothing to say upon signing here. I do not even want to blog on it anymore between the unnamed quotes and the beat writer now turning into deep throat.

Newsday: Mr Logan had a run down of Ted Nolan's Islander coaching career.

Newsday: Wallace Matthews who does other sports for the first time in what seems years jumps all over the bash the Islanders bandwagon starting by writing this will be the beginning of Garth Snow's real tenure as general manager and like Mr Logan he makes sure to find a lot of unnamed sources to rip the club and of course blames Mr Wang's management by committee plan which other NHL teams are now copying which he ignored along with the club making four playoffs in the last six seasons which is hardly great but not dismal as he describes it.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
It's hard to take Mr Wallace seriously because he is not around the New York Islanders and never writes about the club. He seemed to know more about the Rangers/Neil Smith past problems but had no problem telling us us a hockey committee approach does not work. Mr Wallace also seemed to go out of his way to find unnamed sources willing to bash the club to overstate his points.

I will say calling the Nassau Coliseum the dreadful Nassau Mausoleum (presumably) hemorrhaging money does not come off as objective here at all, it reflects someone with a bit of an agenda who should be blaming Nassau County for that who was more interested in writing Rangers because of his apparent lack of knowledge of the
current New York Islanders.

Newsday: Katie Strang had assistant coach Gerard Gallant's comments who learned the news via a phone call from the Islanders' public-relations staff just before taking the ice but there was no indication other than the reports of friction in Newsday but he had no idea something was going to happen.

Executive director of player development Bryan Trottier was shocked and had no clue who was informed by assistant coach John Chabot and was wordless and wondered why the team would be looking for a new head coach and said he's a big Ted Nolan fan and was not interested in wanting to take over the job and says he wouldn't consider coaching in the league for another three to four years.

Mike Dunham commented the timing of the decision struck some as odd, but situations like these are never pleasant and felt there is never a good time for this but the club wants to get off to a good start going into the season.

Kyle Okposo and Blake Comeau found out about Nolan by reading it on the Internet in the Islanders' dressing room before their session on the ice. Okposo had no idea what was going on. Comeau praised Ted Nolan and said he was great with him and gave him confidence which led to a bit of success last season for him.


Newsday: Katie Strang also had fan reaction at the prospect camp to the coaching change.

NY Times: Dave Caldwell has another article with comments from Garth Snow and Ted Nolan with little new beyond the general manager being quoted as saying were committed to playing our younger players and a player like Jeff Tambellini deserves a chance to get significant ice time with us while Ted Nolan feels he did the best he could.

NY Post: Dan Martin does an article on the change with a lot of repeat comments from Ted Nolan and Garth Snow and speculates the club could have a problem attracting a name coach.

NY Post: Larry Brooks is the only one so far behind on what's happening with the Islanders he blames it on Rick DiPietro not playing against the Rangers which even DiPietro himself and Newsday's Greg Logan wrote was not the problem. He does make the fair point this was a conflict between the front office and the head coach on the
age-old issue of cultivating kids as opposed to leaning on journeymen veterans.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Of course Mr Brooks puts it on Rick DiPietro, the Ranger games are his only time he really pays attention to the club, and it goes without writing it he had some shots for Ted Nolan and the club not attracting free agents, despite Mark Streit deciding on the Islanders over the Rangers at a bargain price compared to Wade Redden who even had to have a partial no-trade clause according to Mr Brooks.


Sporting News/Atlanta Journal Constitution: Craig Custance reports he tried to contact Bob Hartley today to see if he would interesting in coaching the Isles and what he would bring to the club along with Atlanta getting out of part of his contract for next season.

Canadian Press: Has an article with goaltender Rick DiPietro's comments in a phone interview that he was a little bit surprised at but at the end of the day they made a decision and are moving in a new direction.

He felt teams that are successful with the salary cap have been able to develop talent in their system with good draft picks and have good free agent signings and that there are a lot of exciting guys coming in and that he feels the club needs somebody that is going to be able to grow and teach those guys to become NHL players.

He did not think there were any problems over the situation with Dubielewicz playing against the Rangers caused any problems between him and Nolan nor did he think it created serious issues between the coach and GM and that there are times there will be disagreements, but it is part of being a family and in sports, too.


Cbs Sportsline: Wes Goldstein rates the Isles summer moves a D and feel the club will have the same problem attracting coaches as they do free agents.

Espn.com: Scott Burnside's headline writer at Espn did the Islander-bashing, Mr Burnside made sure to find an unnamed source to take a quick dig but for the most part knows so little about the team other than background and that he felt they were never good enough to begin with he adds nothing new.

THN: Mike Brophy feels the Islanders made a mistake to part company with Ted Nolan and speculates the coach may have been looking for the door and feels the club could be year away from competing. He also writes Pat Burns, Bob Hartley, Marc Crawford, Joel Quenneville and Paul Maurice will have to think long and hard before hitching their wagon to this mess while writing Los Angeles should be quick to contact Ted Nolan.

Globe & Mail: Tim Wharnsby has some incorrect speculation as by the time the news filters with the quotes it is twisted into so many different angles they contradict one another but does tell us Garth Snow tended goal for the Hartley-coached Cornwall Aces of the AHL in the early 1990s, and briefly played for Crawford and Quenneville with the old Quebec Nordiques in 1994-95.

Montreal Gazette: Pat Hickey anoints the Isles as the most dysfunctional club in the league with Los Angeles and writes an article without any quotes with his own speculation on the change with the timing the issue because Garth Snow waited so long to make a change because the owner hired Ted Nolan.

National Post: Mark Spector has his own speculation on the change and makes comparisons with the circumstances in Buffalo that led to his dismissal.

BCHL.com: BCHL Media has a feature on Islanders camp tryout Anthony Perdicaro who was part of the prospect camp on Monday.

Ct Post: Michael Fornabaio reports on the first day of prospect camp with an article on Denver product Peter Mannino with his comments on the lineage with Wade Dubielewicz and his signing with the club.

Ct Post: Michael Fornabaio in the Ct Post blog gives his thoughts on the coaching change and the reaction at prospects camp and tells us a little about Joensuu, Marcinko and gives us who he thinks is signed along with other items.

More on Tuesday:












So who hires the next Islanders coach?

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/14/2008 07:50:00 PM
Will Garth Snow make the call on who the next coach is?

If the general manager today said he expects the assistant coaches to return next season is Garth Snow about to hire his first head coach and pick who he feels gives this franchise the best chance at moving forward or will Mr Wang be making that choice as he did when he selected a coach and a gm before finding another gm?

Anyone coming in from the outside will likely want to bring in their own people behind the bench which has been a long-standing policy under this ownership. For years Greg Cronin was a holdover in the organization, now Jack Capuano is here from Steve Stirling's staff and coaching the Sound Tigers.

I'm sure the quick and painless fit would be Gerard Gallant who was fired in Columbus before coming here but will not be popular with the fans because he has no record of success. Many clubs with a staff in place may not grant permission for an assistant to be interviewed.

Sure we all know the names like Hartley, Tortorella, Crawford and a bunch of others are available including Milbury if you want to toss your dinner with disgust.

Garth Snow said it could take two days or two weeks but more importantly it will be interesting to see if this is his hire and if that choice is willing to work with prospects without a veteran franchise talent.

Also if this general manager is working only with a one year contract as Mr Botta wrote how are they going to hire another coach and give him more term?

Updated 10pm:
Garth Snow appeared on Msg at 10pm and said he will be starting to do interviews for a new coach right away and joked he wished he could hire someone in the next hour.




Islander notables

New York Islander Fan Central | 7/14/2008 06:32:00 PM
Associated Press: Has more from Garth Snow with additional speculation that
that Gerard Gallant, an Islanders assistant, has been an NHL head coach with Columbus and might be considered and also assistants John Chabot and Dan Lacroix are expected to return.

In addition Garth Snow said it will take a little time to hire a new coach, he also felt Nolan and Snow disagreed over the reasons for the disappointing record with the gm believing the team was underachieving and had the makeup to be a playoff team again while the coach felt he didn't have the necessary personnel to win and took what the writer called a shot at Snow when he said in February we don't have natural 50-goal scorers, we have guys who work for everything they get and this is the way
we play.

Today the general manager said he disagreed on that and felt Bill Guerin and Miro Satan were pretty good goal-scorers but it's all water under the bridge and said it does not do anyone any good now to comment about it, but that last summer Ted was in on the process of bringing in free agents.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
I feel like were back in the situtation with Dubielewicz where the gm says were a family and wants to keep things in house but then says something about where they had differences but then gets specific and has to defend his viewpoint by making light of the some of the same things he says should be kept between the walls. It's almost like Snow had make sure we all knew Ted Nolan was in on the process of adding veterans last summer.

If it's water under the bridge, keep it in house as you say and stand by your decision.

Islanders website: Also had a feature on prospect Matt Donovan.

Daily News: Found a writer named Andy Martino to go write an article on today's events with more of the same from Garth Snow and Ted Nolan with the general manager commenting that we will be looking for a coach who can communicate with our younger players, who is motivational, inspirational and completely knowledgeable.

Johnlabattcenter: Annouced the New York Islanders will play the Philadelphia Flyers in an exhibition game on September 25th.

NY Times: Dave Caldwell blogged on the dismissal of Ted Nolan with comments from both sides.

Islanders website: Recapped day one of prospect camp with comments from Bryan Trottier, Jason Gregiore and Mark Katic as the players took part in some grueling testing to measure their level of fitness in the morning and sat in on a number of lectures. Later in the day, the players took to the ice for the first time. Director of Player Development Bryan Trottier, Islanders assistant coaches John Chabot, Gerard Gallant and Dan Lacroix, Bridgeport Sound Tigers head coach Jack Capuano led this afternoon's skate.


For now the Post only had the AP story. Quiet in the Ct Post for today but I'm sure we'll get plenty from Mr Fornabaio.

A little too early for the shock jocks like Scott Burnside or some of the writers at THN/elsewhere to unload on the club, some of it may have merit but I'll reserve judgement.






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