Nassau To Name Coliseum Developer. Who Cares?

New York Islander Fan Central | 11/20/2012 06:33:00 AM |
Long Island Business News: Reports Officials are expected to name a  development team headed by Donald Monti of Plainview-based Renaissance Downtowns has been chosen to redevelop the 77 acres surrounding the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, according to officials familiar with the plan.

Brooklyn Barclays Center developer Bruce Ratner has also been selected to assess the aging Coliseum and provide an optimization report to the county on how to best market the facility, officials said.

The development group headed by Monti includes RXR Realty, Jones Lang Lasalle and Woodbury-based Spector Group. Nassau County Executive Ed Mangano was expected to unveil the plan on Tuesday, the officials said.

NYIFC Comments: 
The bottom line is Charles Wang signed a twenty five year iron clad lease in Brooklyn starting in 2015-16.

It does not matter if a new Coliseum is constructed or what happens with Charles Wang's hotel or abatement in regard to the New York Islanders beyond his personal finances. Who develops the land or brings in a potential team is now relegated to a footnote unless it's connected to the Islanders at the ECHL level.

It does not matter how much longer Charles Wang owns the team or leaves the Coliseum either sooner or in Sept 2015.

The New York Islanders are finished at the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum.

The Bridgeport Sound Tigers have a binding lease until 2021 which this blog has detailed countless times.

Charles Wang is running/renovating Webster Bank Arena via his sublease. Sound Tiger President/Wang employee, Howard Saffan, pre/post referendum made clear the Sound Tigers are staying in Bridgeport regardless of what happens at the Coliseum.

That's the cold reality regardless where you stand with that decision or who develops what.  

That means regarding developing the Coliseum site in the long-term who cares?

New York Notables: What's Next?

New York Islander Fan Central | 11/12/2012 04:03:00 PM |
New York Islander Fan Central has presented it's views on the lockout, with the early offers to the best of what was provided.

This blog is done now writing about the lockout. The media spin/rhetoric for both sides blaming one another with the players speaking, but not the owners make for entertainment, not information. 

Writers in Canada/US guessing about team finances or markets is just that, and this blog understands they have to produce something or their editors will have to give them another assignment to earn a living.

In other words it's a waste of everyone's time.

When/if an agreement is reached an entry will be written about the terms.

It should be noted the one big announcement Gary Bettman made at the Islanders press conference that got no mention was Gary Bettman emphatically said no NHL expansion forty seconds.

The 1994-95 lockout did not end until Jan 11th.

During the 2004-05 lockout the season wasn’t canceled until Feb. 16th.  ***********************************  
What's Next?
The Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum is hosting a New York Islander-related event with no players present. Because of Disney On Ice since 11/6 at the Coliseum the ice was already down.

As written in recent entries, only Charles Wang/Smg/Nassau know if the team opted out of it's Dec 2009 sublease, it will be the first event since the NHL draft.

Will Charles Wang own the team when it moves in 2015-16 is a story for another day.

What's binding is the new 25 year lease which we have no real details about.  

Rebuilding A Fan Base:
For now the New York Islanders desperately have a fan base to build/rebuild.

The Nets with tons of media/advertising in a brand new building had 3,000 available tickets on a Monday, 1,000 on a Sunday night for a sport far more popular in New York.

By October 2015 when the New York Islanders relocate (if not earlier) the story of a new facility will have long since faded.

Garth Snow, Jack Capuano, Doug Weight? Three years is an eternity for their roles, if the team does not win expect changes or internal later moves.

Spending More?
If Charles Wang continues to own the team, he will be spending more simply because the back-loaded contract years are going to start when the club moves. Do not expect the building to change anything in free agency for the same reason it never did in Toronto, Montreal or with teams that refused to front-load if that's part of the next CBA.

Wang's xm radio comments about the front-loaded contracts give the impression he would not do them under the expired CBA which fall in line with many of his counterparts. 

I asked the Islanders twitter for the link to his full interview.

Coliseum's Future: 
Whatever Charles Wang does with his hotel/abatement now does not matter in terms of New York Islander hockey revenue so the Coliseum's future becomes another subject.  Only he knows how it balanced out financially for him to potentially own the team in Brooklyn vs the Coliseum.

Bottom line is come September 2015 the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum will no longer house an NHL franchise. Unless Charles Wang purchases an ECHL team there will be no New York Islander related tenant given his agreements in Bridgeport last until 2021.  

The circumstances in the New York/Tri State Area right now are so bad for many, it's not really a time for sports to enter a discussion among politicians.
The good news is Anders Nilsson is back playing, the better news is Brock Nelson is statistically looking like he can produce at the AHL level. David Ullstrom is still out, Casey Cizikas left Sunday's game.

Sound Tigers website: Report on the new scoreboard/matrix boards Charles Wang likely paid for at his managed Webster Bank Arena, as he did at the Nassau Coliseum in 2002 long ago via Bridgeport team president Howard Saffan.

New York Notables/DiPietro Not Injured

New York Islander Fan Central | 11/05/2012 07:12:00 PM |
NY Post: Rick DiPietro told the New York Post he is not injured. 

NYIFC Comments: 
Bottom line if Rick DiPietro (or any player participating in other leagues) is not cleared by the NHL team doctors whenever this lock out ends, the insurance coverage they signed to play with their respective European team is responsible to whatever the player insured himself for.
On the Bridgeport front it's been a mixed bag with deHaan's season ending shoulder injury a huge problem moving forward, count Kirill Kabanov's injury in that mix but not season ending.

Anders Nilsson's illness/injury has prevented him from starting a single game which is very disquieting, David Ullstrom has a lower body injury but day to day. Casey Cizikas picked up where he left off.

The good news on the Bridgeport front clearly is how seamlessly Brock Nelson, Nino Niederreiter, John Persson have adapted to this level so far in terms of production.  It's an excellent start, however many top picks go to the AHL and do well with Jeff Tambellini an example.

Lockout Negotiations Second Thoughts? 
I wrote recently the players are entitled to every penny of their newly signed contracts, but the thing about those contracts are they were signed under the terms of the previous CBA which included escrow.

I did not consider that at the time. 

Under that CBA it meant they could lose a portion of those contracts, you can be sure many owners/players knew that when the contracts were signed.

The league's apparent recent offers did promise the players full contracts be honored, however with the revenue split changing that means they may not receive the full value in a 50/50 split so call the wordsmith for the collective rhetoric on the escrow.

Of course let's be clear, the paychecks being lost by the players with no salary is going to start costing a lot more than any escrow/revenue split down the road.

As for the rest the usual media suspects are doing it's collective market song/dance.

New York Islander Logo Change: Media Hypocrisy vs Status Quo

New York Islander Fan Central | 11/03/2012 02:25:00 PM |
The New York Islanders have somewhat of a unique problem brought on by their legendary iconic logo.

The team represents all of New York/Tri State Area. It always has so the name New York Islanders cannot change. 1996 management logo disaster notwithstanding.

They are only one of two teams in New York/New Jersey with a logo that reflects a territory or an area of land.

The Mets logo shows a bridge and the background of Manhattan skyscrapers where they did play in 1962 at the Polo Grounds as an expansion team. It has nothing to do with Queens County since 1964.

Depending on how you see things the Islander logo requires a slight tweak to include the entire region which should also now include Manhattan if you care about being logistically correct.  

Hypocrisy Vs Status Quo:
Nothing new.

We have two New Jersey football teams calling themselves New York since 1976/1984, with a media/league completely on board with that hypocrisy. The politicians wake up come parade time or when New Jersey is awarded a Superbowl.

Mayor Koch, who did not know Msg was getting a permanent tax exemption in 1982 in this 2002 interview got it right on the New Jersey Giants 1986 parade in  Moonachie, N.J. which this week was underwater.

The Giants when they first relocated removed the NY from the helmet, going with Giants, that sensitivity has long since gone out the window with no semblance of pretense.

The New York Cosmos never changed names to New Jersey after settling in the Meadowlands, with a long history of being orphans from Long Island to Yankee/Shea Stadium to Randalls Island, back to the Coliseum as an indoor team before the brand folded to the current day with the North American Soccer League.

The New York/New Jersey Metro Stars, a franchise that has never played one game in New York, re-branded as the New York Red Bull in a taxpayer funded New Jersey stadium after they left the former Giants Stadium (1976 New Jersey taxpayer bonded) Meadowlands where the bonds were forgiven before it's demolition.

Dolan's WNBA NY Liberty, currently plays in New Jersey, but has Fox Woods Casino on the uniform as to what area they represent?

The other teams whether it be the Bronx Yankees, Manhattan Knicks/Rangers never had logo's that reflected a specific region.

The Nets since leaving the Coliseum as an ABA champion, were all over the map in name/logo whether it be Piscataway, Meadowlands, Prudential Center with New York/New Jersey on several versions, now Brooklyn which is ridiculous because the other teams do not call themselves by borough, and 1955 was a long time ago.

The Devils have consistently stayed New Jersey since day one, despite sharing a parking lot at the Meadowlands with all this team/media hypocrisy.

Yes, the media  got far more honest about what state teams represented when the Nets/Devils went to their respective finals in the same year for about a week.

The New York Islanders Moving Forward:
Is this a big deal? No, because the Islanders can create tons of secondary uniform merchandising to represent any borough or community from New Jersey to Albany, to Montauk which is the true historic influence of the tri-state area fan base.

The Islanders current team store at the Coliseum has merchandise that has Long Island, New York.

Wang made his Long Island only bed far too often for the Lighthouse/Referendum as he discussed in 2011 his ticket demographics coming from inside the city limits which he did again last week. Wang's predecessor's also played the Long Island card, which many Ranger media fans made sure to keep them firmly in, despite the generations of fans who saw this team on channel 9, and considered them New York, and went in big numbers to Msg/New Jersey.

Wang's eventual successor may have his own concept of branding. Mike Bossy said it best for me when he spoke to Wang about his retired number.

A team with this legendary tradition cannot change what it represents, the greatest US dynasty in NHL history, the only pro team to win nineteen straight playoff series, the only Championship Tradition New York has ever known.

Arguably the greatest dynasty in NHL history.

Does it matter what professional media believe? No, simply because they have not been consistent in applying the same standards for all the teams.

Correct means a publication has to write the truth, even if the team does not want that branding perception and it may cost that paper ad dollars which is how this game always plays out so it becomes politically correct for that media companies bottom line.

Newspapers cannot afford to lose teams $$ support so they will call them what they are told by the team.

We all know the New York Islanders have the worst professional media of any team in North America, so the hypocrisy coverage standards (what saves x paper money) are part of this story.

That problem will continue in Brooklyn. 

What do you want me to write about Al D'Amato, politicians that was not on my twitter feed or in past entries?

If the New York Nassau County referendum was in the South Bronx (pick a New York/New Jersey team)  it would have received far less than forty three percent.

The will of the people card gave every politician their out. 

NYC Marathon NO. (completely agree with cancellation)
Cablevision needs it's opening night renovation fund payday local resources diverted notwithstanding (good for NYC healing spin) so papers who need 82 (not one yearly race) Knick games get on board with propaganda.

What Charles Wang is doing in Bridgeport (free tickets/two games) is a diversion.
Dolan giving back 500k of his 11m tax exemption from NYC is something else, despite his papers rhetoric.

Would have been fun if Bloomberg called off the Dolan's party with the Marathon. (West Side Stadium Shelly Silver for Mr Bloomberg on line two urgent)

Happy 80th Birthday Al Arbour

New York Islander Fan Central | 11/01/2012 05:45:00 PM | Has a feature celebrating the 80th birthday of Al Arbour.

One More Nassau Coliseum Stanley Cup....Canyon Of Hero's...Host Outdoor Game...All-Star Game...NHL Draft

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/31/2012 01:44:00 AM |
The title says it all.

One more Stanley Cup Championship Celebration at the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum whenever this lockout ends if Wang is locked into his lease. 

You get in the playoffs you can win the Stanley Cup. The Isles beat the 8th seed Kings, and had many close games (wins) against the finals Devils.

The parity in this league means any team has a chance, nor is there anything close to a dominating team. The 1982 Vancouver Canucks were a 30-33-17 team that played the New York Islanders in the Stanley Cup Finals. 

Let's hold Mr Bloomberg true to his word. A Stanley Cup means a Canyon Of Hero's parade, new generations of fans all over New York City/Long Island to go with the ones who have filled all three New York area buildings for generations.

The NHL Outdoor game as the host New York team in a  Dynasty only match-up against the Canadians in the Bronx given the Islanders were the team that started the idea of a game.

The NHL All-Star game.

The NHL Draft. 

Run the table.

New York is an NHL market almost completely invisible during it's regular season. The New York Islanders can only help NHL hockey compete with the major media sports.
What To Watch For At The Moment: 
Besides the politicians telling the public how much revenue Nassau County was not generating with the Islander home games or proving they never really cared beyond political football?

Wang opting out of his Dec 2009 Smg sub-lease. He does (or did that already) Nassau approval is the final road block to break existing 2015 lease as the remaining obstacle and leaving earlier.

This was one benefit of the 2009 sublease. 

If Charles Wang wishes to move earlier that's what it takes plus paying the full terms of the both leases thorough 2015. 

The sublease was about three million a year, which some saw as a gift Wang got for all ticket revenue, concessions, events, parking from games/events.

That sublease was never a gift, you could argue Smg saw this as guaranteed money if the Coliseum were renovated with the Lighthouse project, and closed every summer.

In the absence of an NHL agreement, there is no law the New York Islanders could not bring a future ECHL franchise to the Nassau Coliseum. The lease in Bridgeport is binding with Howard Saffan saying many times the Islanders in no way affect the Sound Tigers 2021 lease plus Wang is renovating that building, and managing it.

Wang has a hotel that needs business on the Coliseum site permanently with the connecting abatement.

Perhaps Wang wants to keep a connection to the teams roots moving forward at the Coliseum if he's not blocked by other developers/sports teams.  

Other things to be watched for connect with the Nets, who still have their training facilities in East Rutherford with a two year lease but many articles about team offices/training facilities relocating.

The New York Islanders likely will not be in Plainville or practicing forever at Iceworks on game days, but keep in mind the New York Islanders are a tenant at Barclays.

Lot's to be done beyond lockerooms/seat expansions, which does ask question where was this exhibition game/KHL games lockeroom supposed to be this year? 
2012-13 New York Islanders On Paper: 
Yes, the 2012-13 New York Islanders are at best an eighty percent completed roster for a season that may well never be played. If there is a future CBA settlement the rest of the club will come from Bridgeport or among the many unsigned free agents unless there is a trade.

The future CBA will likely determine if Lubomir Visnovsky even bothers reporting if he no longer owes the New York Islanders a year of service or is done with the NHL. 

It's noteworthy, Alexei Yashin, the one player who went back to the KHL every single year, is not reportedly playing with any team at this time when he meets all KHL qualifications for a roster spot.

Evgeny Nabokov met the qualification, but given his KHL experience to where he left a huge contract it's hardly surprising he's not interested to date. . 

Of course many NHL players are home waiting. 

For those wondering SC Riessersee had a nine day break, they are carrying three goaltenders so do not expect Rick DiPietro to start every game. That team plays 10/31-11/2. 


More Questions Than Answers For New York: Could Wang Have Waited Longer?

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/27/2012 02:18:00 AM |
It's a very easy thing for me to blog spending Charles Wang's money for him. I wrote, and gave him total support in past entries.

I absolutely do now.  

Put this entry in the policy-wonk category.

I would like to hear something from Islanders senior VP, Michael Picker, who was at the meeting Feb 14th 2012 at the Nassau legislature eight months (before the seven month negotiation began with Brooklyn), and said Islanders Want To Stay At Coliseum Nothing's Changed. 

Picker showed up when he was not even scheduled, and spoke, making clear it had to happen this year, which Kevin Law/other did as well. 

Everything that goes through this team has always gone through Picker for comment. He was not photographed or mentioned at the Brooklyn press conference that seemed to catch the entire hockey media world off guard off what Wang said was an agreement done at 7am.

It was almost as stunning as the announcement given on the shortest notice ever.  Nothing this franchise has done for a decade happens without everyone claiming to know days in advance, yet Bloomberg, Bettman were all there.

I wish to know more about the iron-clad, no opt-out lease or how this makes Charles Wang more revenue than he made under conditions of his sublease at the Coliseum where he got revenue from all events next to his hotel. Did he opt out of his sublease?

For that matter when the day comes that Wang sells, do those same iron-clad, no opt-out terms apply to a future owner?

Do I expect those answers? Absolutely not, however they are big questions--- fair to ask here.

Howie Rose recently gave thirty seconds to the Isles, and felt there was no reason it would not turn out like Pittsburgh where they would stay longer than their lease, while a new facility was finally agreed on at the last minute in March, April, May 2015.

I shared that view, and wrote the framework from the referendum would happen with or without Mangano sooner or later behind closed doors.

It's easy for Rose, myself, any New York Islander fan to say the same thing writing Wang could have waited a few years at the Coliseum after an agreement was done which was obviously not getting closer.

What's another six years, it's not our money? Wang was doing all the work. Sure he likely had enough of the political football, he kept his word not to issue threats or play it out in the media. When the time came he made his decision.
Having written that we were not the ones getting told no since 2002, while everyone else got a new building via taxpayers or was getting exemptions. Would I have blamed Wang for washing his hands of everything, getting every penny he could out of town? No. 

If everything is iron-clad for all future owners the game with the Dolans is over, no cable contract buyout, who knows if that played out at all?

Mangano put this referendum out, he played the will of the people card which is a joke because all that did was take the pressure off him which NIFA never would have approved. 

Charles Wang absolutely shocked me last summer. Every other day this 67 year old multimillionaire was running into NYC to go on Manhattan television stations at 7am, to ask five percent of the people watching from Nassau to vote YES like someone half his age.

The agreement he signed last summer gave him nothing near the revenue or outright payments that Phoenix/Edmonton offered to those teams.

It begs the question Michael Kay asked. Why? . 

The last two summers I made a few very tough entries here, practically begging the fans to fill the Coliseum, putting it on the public to force Nassau/Wang to keep the team here, writing fill the building or lose the team.

Another announced 29th year of attendance.  Kate Murray will get her sixty percent, Mangano will run for election, few will hold them accountable, some will even praise him.

The apathy or indifference among the politicians even now speak for themselves.

Wang has interest on the property that are not expiring in 2015, and a hotel to fill.

Lot's of unanswered question.


Bad Actors 101: Ranger Media Should Not Tell New York Islander History

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/26/2012 04:44:00 AM |
If there is an academy award for bad actors in biased media, there have been a lot of Ranger life long die-hards to nominate for attempting to re-write New York Islander history the past few days in a market with little full time hockey media in 2012.

So the New York Islanders should change their historic name, logo and what their history represents?

Who knew some of the same people who call New Jersey football teams, New York  had such double-standards? 

Funny how some of the same media people looked the other way as the New York Islanders had their channel rebranded from Sportschannel to Fox Sports New York to Metroguide, finally to Madison Square Garden Network Plus or +2.

What's next the New York American's were not Msg's true original team? 

Do the New York Islanders play home games in Madison Square Garden besides the three appearances yearly against the Rangers. 

I still remember James Dolan laughing in studio when Chris Russo asked him how he could put Isles-Leafs on Metroguide in 2002 when it was becoming a huge New York interest story?

I'm sure one or two remember that famous night Msg/Fox merged and they did that ceremony before a game turning out the lights on Sportschannel. Soon afterward the lights went off again when Msg decided to pull the games off television entirely because they did not like the fine print the Isles got eighteen percent of all Msg media on the new cable contract, demanding it be changed for a phony competition clause that would have kept the Rangers off Msg for eight years, and the Knicks off Msg for a decade or longer using that same hypocrisy.

There were two PPV Islander games before or after. 

It's been an odd and disappointing few days reading some life-long Ranger media fans playing bad actor writing about the history of a team that gave some of them a few sleepless nights growing up hockey fans.

Seems to me New York Islander regular season hockey was a stand alone back-page story in all New York City papers, the road games on WOR-9, at a time hockey was never more popular with the general public.

Today hockey is not a regular season back-page story for games, even some Ranger media fans were offended last year writing articles asking for people to notice the team here.    

In 2006 that same Sports Illustrated had a different take on 1994 Stanley Cup Finals ratings because they were very low.

It's insulting to see media fans of a team with one Stanley Cup (my version would be purchased from Edmonton-Chicago) since 1940 to talk about success or relevance or a building four years older than the Nassau Coliseum closed with falling debris/failed health inspections ripping the Nassau Coliseum.

Who knew the Islanders were as bad as the Knicks the last decade reading some of this stuff with one playoff game win since Charles Wang purchased the Islanders? I must have missed Wang hiring Isiah or Sather who never would have lost a game with the Isles payroll.

Funny, before last season the Rangers went to the playoffs one more time than the Islanders since 1997, they had two playoff series wins and got one of those with that disputed goal against the Isles that could have seen the Isles play Atlanta in the opening round instead.

Ken Belson, Larry Brooks, Jeff Z Klein, Neil Best, Jim Baubauch, Stu Hackel come on down. Katie Strang is not shy about knocking a team she did not cover in 2011-12 beyond a few October game for the joke that is Espn has Scott Burnside, Pierre Lebrun needing to sell markets. 

No, this blog will leave out the clueless media department that would include everyone named Bondy at the Daily News. Peter Botte's only good for twitter shots.

For those wondering about Arthur Staple. cannot recall anything vindictive when he was a full time Ranger beatwriter, not working very hard covering Isles today does not make him a bad actor and it is interesting he's using Charles Wang's XM interviews instead of getting his own interview. Could I have included Mark Herrmann, Steve Zipay for his pre Dolan ownership if you think LI is really Ranger country blog? Sure.

John Jeansonne, Mark Herrmann absolutely loved to remind Islander fans they are second to the Rangers in their world, does that make it so? No, it just means Herrmann is a life long Ranger fan, and Jeansonne does not cover them enough to know anything anymore.

Only thing more entertaining is reading Bob Raissman's twitter feed's comments about how Alan (2007 they would prefer we don't even write) Hahn on Dolan's network which turned out that way. 

Vancouver Sun: Had no problem defending Oilers 38 year home vs the Nassau Coliseum in a display of hypocricy. 

Of course the sub five hunderd Cauncks who got swept in 1982 finals used to play in a different building, bleeding red ink.
So far Torrey, Arbour, Potvin, Bossy, Brent Sutter have weighed in.  Potvin's audio interview (see twitter feed must listening)  The alumni living here (Nystrom/Gillies) will be the most interesting read.

Even if Billy Smith/anyone rips Charles Wang I want to write it here. 

The Longest Goodbye: 
The problem with this story is it does not end until the New York Islanders relocate to Brooklyn, whether that be in 2015-16 or sooner.

Moving Forward:
Many bad actors yet to step on the stage, some in other markets. One Ranger fan staff writer at Time Magazine, actually got approval to write this?

High Marks:
A few years ago (a few days/game after the Islanders beat the Rangers) a writer named Andrew Gross went off at how the Islanders Stanley Cups really bothered him growing up and came off like one of the bad actors above. I found it amusing and made some comments.

Mr Gross did a super job writing about the Islanders this week, and got it right on all fronts.

Some Ranger life-long media fans can do a great job and put down the bias.

Again to be clear the Dolan family are doing absolutely nothing illegal. They have every legal right to hide, ignore or drive their competition out of business or limit their viability. No one made past Islander owners sign cable contracts until 2030. The Dolan family purchased Newsday fair and square so they can write whatever they want. They have zero obligation to write one article about the New York Islanders.

They have to show the games per the cable contract, that's it. 

New York Islander Fan Central however can point out the coverage disparity, and let our readers know when things are not equal. .

A Shocking Day Leads To Huge Future Questions For New York Islanders

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/25/2012 08:46:00 AM |

A huge day of incredible news on countless levels that now begins what is now a three year status as a team leaving the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, the only home the New York Islanders have ever know.

It happened with zero advanced notice from a media completely blindsided. A lease Wang closed at 7am. Almost as shocking the name Michael Picker appeared in no article or statement on Tuesday. (Art McCarthy was mentioned) 

For many at best it's a time of mixed emotions.  The Ranger/Dolan media people took their obligatory shots, ignoring the age of the Garden, and it's tax exemptions/empty seats/viability, that's old news. Most had enough problems contradicting the distance between facilities.

Now those outlets are out of excuses not to spend money covering the team full time beyond their own viability/relevance/credibility issues.
Charles Wang's Legacy:
Charles Wang reportedly signed a 25 year, Iron-Clad, No Opt Out Lease. The days of talking about this team leaving New York are over, the teams future is secure. Wang's legacy when he finally sells along with his efforts since day one in 2000 to keep this team here at his own expense is one of doing everything he could.

Wang was consistent with his words back to 2002-03 with Bruce Ratner when it was possible the Nets could return to the Coliseum.

No. Wang could not/should not paid for everything when no one did.. He tried every plan possible and ran around last summer at 7am going on television trying to pass a referendum no other local team had to endure as they got quietly paid in backrooms after years of trying to get the Lighthouse passed at his own expense.

The biggest news of the referendum was forty three percent were willing to spend money they likely did not have because they understood this franchise history/Wang's efforts were worth the YES vote which never would have been passed by NIFA/legislature anyway.

Wang's failure was marketing a team that was New York overplaying the Long Island card which was written about often here.  He discussed his season ticket base again (same as 2011 WFAN) with how many are from inside the city limits. 
Did Things Play Out As New York Islander Fan Central Projected In Many Entries?
No. Having written this three years is a long time, and if history has taught us anything it's the people on the stage at the press conferences come/go which will happen at Barclay's as soon as AIG completes it's sale.

Three years is a long time for Charles Wang at age 68, but a binding lease is simply that for his eventual successor.

New York Islander Fan Central for a long time has maintained Wang had every single economic reason to keep the team at the Coliseum, that if the club were moved to Brooklyn it would not be with him as it's owner.

As of 2015-16 the 450,000 hockey customers and NHL teams staying at his hotel will no longer be frequenting that area.  How did Brooklyn compensate him for that?

As of 10/24 Wang said he will retain sole ownership as a tenant in someone else's facility, does that make economic sense losing 42 NHL games (at least) away from a hotel/abatement he made clear he maintains interest in yesterday?

We do not know the answer to this, however it seems unlikely on the surface Wang makes any additional revenue with this move, he could make less. 

It all depends on what he was given to relocate as compensation if anything.
Dolan/Msg Cable Contract Buyout Factor?  
The silence was deafening no live coverage, no announcers sent beyond Stan Fischler. Guess there was no time for Dolan to welcome the Islanders to Brooklyn.

To be fair Dolan made clear last week there are enough events to go around in Brooklyn and Msg is booked solid.

Ultimately this may not have been the time for Dolan to cut Wang a huge cable contract buyout check with what he's paying to renovate Msg unless he plans to buy AIG interest in Barclay's.

The Move Helps The Team Spend More?  
It all depends what's in the lease. The numbers do not add considering how many teams with full control of revenue in tax payer facilities getting paid lose money. Wang's a tenant in Brooklyn.

There is nothing reported Wang opted out of his Dec 2009 sublease. The signs are there that he did with Smg bringing in a booking GM (2012 entry) which counters those terms where Wang managed facility. 

All we know is Islanders prospects were housed at his hotel, and avoided the Coliseum since the draft party.
Moving Before 2015? Depends On Nassau/Wang/Sublease
Wang did not dismiss it, but maintained he has a binding lease. 

If Wang opted out of his Dec 2009 sublease he can move immediately only if Nassau County approves. In that event Wang would have to pay back full terms of his lease or roughly three million a year through 2015.

If a developer comes along with a plan to build now, it makes financial sense for Nassau to let Wang out of his hockey lease sooner, will Mangano's new master developer list expand or be quickly announced? 

That comes down to Ed Mangano/Nassau or his possible successor after the 2013 election.
Anyone who says Charles Wang bought the Isles for real estate officially were proven incorrect, he maintains interest at the Coliseum site anyway, and will work for his destination at the HUB, but without the New York Islanders at his hotel with other developers.

The politicians who let this teams fans down for decades put on their usual sad show of apathy, indifference or flat out incompetence. That's where the full blame goes, our alumni should be furious at them who should have been making plans starting in 1990.

Kate Murray/D'Amato, Mondello, Jacobs (Jay/Judy) and countless others, you played political football and lost for the final time. 

Mangano took his out with the referendum, playing his will of the people card instead of finding a way to close the doors, and do the financing everyone else did without a referendum. 

He failed. Ed Mangano's deserves blame pulling the Lighthouse day one of his term from the county website. Every other municipality found a way without making it a public vote with  other cities lining up to give public funding for rich corporations. 

Wonder what would have happened with Yankees-Mets-Devils-Msg if the public had to vote via referendum to give them taxpayer money as Bloomberg closed firehouses/cut police?

Exactly. Forty three percent to me was a victory, even in August.
Hofstra's Staurt Rabinowitz:
He sure seemed broken up.....NOT.  
Edmonton Is Staying, Wang Has A Year More Than Katz On Lease?
Mr Katz got a taxpayer funded arena down town and it's apparently still not enough. What's happening here is what happened in Washington, New Jersey, Detroit and many teams who moved to a more populated area with transportation.

Things happen in trends suburban has gone urban in most cases. 
Nassau Coliseum Future?
It all depends on how much control a Master Developer has vs how much political football can be played. It could be leveled by a developer building quickly or left open for events. Nassau after 2015 has to find someone to manage it if it remains.

Someone pays to keep it open or to clear the land. 

In other words enter Cablevision in the business of renovating old facilities as entertainment venues .LA Forum.
Bottom Line: 
The New York Islanders, history, name/logo remain which for me was everything.

This blog more than most have defended the club as a New York franchise, same as the Yankees with a championship tradition that is second to none in this town. (or New Jersey)

The New York Islanders have a current home in New York, they have a future home in New York.

Not my place to speak for alumni, it's still their team/tradition/history. 

The Dynasty should have gotten the Canyon Of Hero's from 1980-1983, they should have gotten the home outdoor game at Yankee Stadium.

New York City is officially New York Islander Country in an over-saturated market.

Nassau County remains New York Islander Country.

Wang WFAN Summary: " It Was Brooklyn Or Out Of Town "

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/24/2012 06:10:00 PM |

Summary of Charles Wang's 10/24, 5pm interview on WFAN:
Updated 7pm: Complete interview now available. 
Included Espn radio interview 

Most of this out of context, but wanted to post it for everyone. WFAN/Isles website will have link at some future point. 
* It was Brooklyn or out of  town, no other alternative.
* Did not comment on selling if club had left New York entirely. 
* Tried to do everything to get something done with Nassau/credited Mangano, ran out of time.
*  Felt fan base extends from Manhattan to Suffolk regarding lame duck status questions.
* Not contemplating getting out of lease early, not dwelling on it.
* Lease completed today at 7am in Brooklyn, said it was getting close.
* Cited season ticket base percentages (he did same in 2011 on WFAN) per area.
30 percent Nassau/30 Suffolk, rest inside NYC limits, Westchester. 
* Discussed free agent problem, felt Brooklyn would help.
* Locker rooms would have to be built for hockey. Home/Visitor. (discussed Ratner working on that)
* Still has HUB interest Marriott/parcel next door, timing no longer viable for Islander hockey, but discussed Mangano's RFP for developers he will work with, continuing dialogue, destination spot. 
* Did not want to blame anyone for dropping ball, discussed everything tried over years.
* Name/colors/logo absolutely will be kept.
* Goal on ice is to win Stanley Cup.
* Feels going to Brooklyn brings revenue's to help them compete.
* Will honor training lease with Iceworks as transition begins.
* Felt the New York Islanders continue to be New York Islanders and fans of Long Island will continue to care.
* Said an early exit possible but dialogue with Mangano, speculation.
* Does not know if any games in Brooklyn this year, citing having to honor Coliseum lease.
* Was very excited, light at end of tunnel, happy home for franchise. 

New York Moves To Brooklyn Effective 2015... 25-Year Iron Clad Lease....Team Retains New York Name...Wang Intends To Retain Ownership

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/24/2012 02:04:00 PM |
 Islanders website: Issued the official release

ITV: Has the press conference with Charles Wang, Bruce Ratner, Mike Bloomberg/others. 

Complete Press Conference with Q & A

 The announcement was made at a press conference in the GEICO Atrium at Barclays Center, which was also attended by New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman, Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz, Islanders General Manager Garth Snow, and Barclays Center CEO Brett Yormark.

In support of the illustrious history of the team, the New York Islanders name and logo will remain unchanged.

"It was our goal from day one to keep the Islanders in the local New York area." Wang said. "We’re thrilled to have the opportunity to play in Barclays Center, a first class arena. This has been a long journey for the Islanders family starting with our loyal fans, sponsors, and employees. I want to personally thank them for their patience, loyalty, and support. I am excited about today’s announcement and I am looking forward to a long and successful future in Brooklyn."
 Just watched complete press conference on
"We have tried very hard to keep the Islanders in their original home," Wang said. "I want to specifically thank Nassau County Executive Ed Mangano and his team for their help trying to find a solution to keep the Islanders there. Unfortunately, we weren't able to do that."

"I have said consistently we will honor our lease (at the Coliseum)," Wang said. "Obviously anything can happen, but we are committed to being there through 2015."

Will update this entry, adding video, credible articles as available.
NY Post: Has updated comments that Charles Wang will honor his Coliseum lease.   The Post laughingstock hockey media did not attend. Had comments from Jiggs McDonald, who said shame on Nassau County somewhere on Facebook (I did not see) Bob Gutkowski and the usual politicians doing their bad actor impersonations who hardly seemed devastated from Murray to Stuart Rabinowitz to Kevin Abrahams.

NYIFC Comments:
A ton to digest. My initial reaction is how does Charles Wang make money as a tenant  in a building he does not own vs what he made at the Coliseum if he retains ownership as he said?

He just walked away from a hotel that was making money from NHL games next door he currently own, plus teams that stayed at his hotel. Come Sept 2016 the Islanders will require a practice facility near this arena.

2015-16 is a long time away for a 68 year old owner, but the bottom line to that is an iron clad lease means the talk of this team leaving New York ends permanently until 2040 beyond his tenure as owner. 

Great for Charles Wang keeping this completely quiet in the sourced-based/rumor filled NHL media, he caught everyone off guard which I loved. 

Dolan's Msg Networks/WFAN did not carry the press conference, nor did YES in a show of who your friends really are.

Mayor Bloomberg gave the New York Islanders the metrocard to the Canyon Of Hero's. Gary Bettman was present and endorsed the move, citing the capacity vs the Nassau Coliseum as a small factor.

Wang said he will remain the sole owner of this franchise. 

Obviously Long Island only/fans a devastating day. For New York Islander fans, a bittersweet day but the day of speculation of this teams future seem to be apparently over. For myself, this blog has always considered the New York Islanders as much New York as the Yankees.

However that viewpoint is not shared by others including many alumni, despite the long-term fan support at Msg/New Jersey.

Charles Wang retains his Marriott hotel, abatement to the Coliseum and maintains control of the HUB property beyond the lease unless a far less significant announcement is coming. Ed Mangano, decades of Nassau politicians officially lost their hockey team today or last summer with their referendum as opposed to paying as everyone else in New York/New Jersey had to do. 

Wang did the right thing, the New York Islanders will never be the Brooklyn Islanders, this teams history/tradition are too special for any other name, he also kept the team in the New York area despite comments of out of market offers.

Is that consolation to generations of fans who saw this team as Long Island only which many media sold as such to cut coverage? No. 

What will Ed Mangano's reaction be? This is a tough time for Mangano with police business but he gave his comments.

The signs were there with Smg bringing in a general manager to book events in a sublease where the Isles booked events, this blog wrote about it back in February.  The team not having a prospect camp at the Coliseum in July, no practices pre lockout, no training camp at Coliseum while the prospects stayed at Wang's hotel.

The New York Islanders officially became a lame-duck franchise at the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum today. The door is open for whoever develops the site under Mangano's plan or Dolan to come in and renovate the building for AHL hockey/events.

Bottom line the New York Islanders remain the New York Islanders, with what is likely a media forced to cover them as a New York team.

This is going to be a very long/bitter sweet three year goodbye, unless Nassau County decides they can leave sooner. 

My advice is for the fans seeing this as goodbye should understand the Devils moved to Newark from the Meadowlands, the Capitals moved downtown from Landover, the Oilers are trying to move into a city. The Pistons moved to Auburn Hills.

It's not goodbye, they are moving twenty miles, not out of state. 

Charles Wang felt he waited as long as he could to do something with Nassau, he did not receive anything that the other local teams received, it remains to be seen how he does much better as a tenant here. 

New York Islanders Brooklyn Press Conference 1pm Live Streamed

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/24/2012 12:35:00 PM |
Updated: Direct link to live press conference: on ITV at 1pm Will show the live conference on television.
(this would be channel 1 for Time Warner subscribers)

Charles Wang will be on WFAN at 5:30pm, trying to get Bettman.  

Not much else to write at this time, however Charles Wang, Gary Bettman, Garth Snow, Marty Markowitz, Mayor Bloomberg are all scheduled to appear per multiple reports.

Associated Press: Cites arena issues however there is nothing here that suggests the team can vacate it's current lease before 2015 without permission from Nassau County. 

Obviously we'll know more at 1pm.

Unless Wang terminated his Dec 2009 sublease, and Nassau gave the club permission to leave the team must play at the Nassau Coliseum through it's 2014-2015 lease. 

Smg would also have to be paid the full value of it's lease through 2014-15 under all those terms.

The Official New York Islander Fan Central List Of Worthless Article Keywords

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/23/2012 10:59:00 PM |
At New York Islander Fan Central this writer believes everyone's time is important never to be wasted so others can accumulate page views while promoting their agenda.

You are entitled to information/articles with direct quotes with names that support what's being claimed in articles.

As soon as a professional writer needs to start writing the following, it's time to click off and never return:
A report claims.
Rumor has it.
A source(s) has/have said/confirmed.
Insiders believe.
The word is.
I've been told.
Someone says
Anonymous person.
We've learned.
I know. 

There are likely a few terms I forgot to include, you get the idea. 

Some will call up a university or economist for a quote to give you some background in a study, however that does not support what's being claimed by the writer. 

When a writer gives straight speculation or provides opinion that's fair, this blog is not claiming media people should not express their views, however if you are making claims about news take the time and back it up with a quote.

There is a significant difference. 

Bottom line, when you see the following (above) in an article about your team lockout, game, whatever hit the close button and go find a professional media writer who will not waste your time, and actually earn their paycheck by placing a call, and asking for a direct quote.

I'm well aware that's hard to find anymore. 

Sure many media people are under pressure to produce anything from their editors, if they don't do it someone younger/cheaper will be hired to take that writers place with a mark against their future resume. 

Do people who give direct quotes always tell the truth? Obviously not, but the writer did their job. 
This blog has maintained the New York Islanders have the worst media in North American professional sports, that means the standards drop to where virtually anything written is believed by some. 

It does not mean you should ever accept anything but the highest journalistic standards. 

What I have discovered often is the small town papers covering NHL players usually do the best job. The AHL media operates in the same manner telling the game story, going to coach for comment,  players for quotes which provides a good insight into the information presented.

It's not very tough to do at all as evidenced in this Durham region/Oshawa article that had Josh Bailey's comment that this blog linked to via twitter last week.

Calvin deHaan Season Ending Shoulder Surgery

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/22/2012 07:13:00 PM |
Sound Tigers twitter & Ct Post: Reports Calvin deHaan will miss the remainder of the 2012-13 season with a dislocated left shoulder

deHaan's had a long history of shoulder injuries and surgery on his left shoulder.

NYIFC Comments: 
Devastating for deHaan, who has had shoulder issues since juniors, devastating for the New York Islanders.

deHaan was this franchises best short term bet to play in the NHL, he was their 2008 12th overall draft selection, who almost made the team in his first camp.

Bridgeport needed him, however New York needed him more to finally become a full time NHL player, that will not happen in 2012-13.

With the exception of Griffin Reinhart, deHaan on paper was the better rated prospect to Aaron Ness, Matt Donovan who were drafted later.

As long as the lockout continues Bridgeport has the short-term depth, however make no mistake deHaan needed to be in New York playing at the NHL level if a CBA agreement was reached.

NHLPA Rejected Proposal/Notables

New York Islander Fan Central | 10/21/2012 08:39:00 PM |
USA Today: Released an updated 10/21 article with some details of the NHLPA proposal. 

NHLPA Website: As of Sunday PM has not put their complete offers with all specifics on their website.

NYIFC Comments:
I wanted folks to have both sides complete offers to judge for themselves. Obviously media involved is far to biased in most cases to extreme.

For myself, it's insulting defending corporate owners who created this problem with a history of their teams as stand alone businesses not being profitable.

Comcast sending the Flyers money to front-load contracts does not mean the Flyers are profitable.

Cablevision sending Msg Network 140m dollars does not mean the Rangers are profitable here in 2010.

Chicago Tribune: Rocky Wirtz needing his other businesses to make Hawks payroll in 2010 on cash calls does not mean the Hawks make money by themselves.

On the other side of this NHL players making 2.5m on avg receiving massive front-loaded deals many with NTC/NMC have hardly been treated unfairly.

Zach Parise got his ten million dollar signing bonus already here  plus the players are owed their 2011-12 escrow payments from last CBA.

All the rhetoric aside, if the NHL offer guarantees full contracts signed in the last CBA with no rollbacks the NHLPA should be willing to accept that with a 50/50 revenue split if it means the players get some of that money later as opposed to sooner. 

The players should not have to forfeit one penny of binding agreements this time around.

I'm sorry to write my impression of Donald Fehr is he was too slow to get started and seems very comfortable with letting Bettman have another lockout on his resume.

Fehr has his resume too that includes baseball losing a world series on his watch, competitive balance in terms of payroll was ruined under his tenure.

He was not hired to make owners pay players less, it's not his problem that owners overspend or find loopholes that them to make these offers.
There is no Sunday update on a possible injury to Calvin deHaan from game at WBS.